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[G.Leave]

Hows yours made. Looks beautiful compared to mine. Has to be more pleasant to the taste

The taste is horrible...its nasty. no matter what kind of herb goes into it....but the effect is exceptional so you dont need much at all to launch into orbit

 

[Master_gRoshi]

Yeah no shit!! I would be confused by that too!!!

man it is not even cold anymore. Im baffled.
Im def going to try some when its dry. Just never seen or heard of this.
Also. Post filtering. Have filtered with coffee filters and everything. So idk.
Been curious a while. I had to get it out and see

 

[Master_gRoshi]

The taste is horrible...its nasty. no matter what kind of herb goes into it....but the effect is exceptional so you dont need much at all to launch into orbit

yup. Sounds same then lol. I was pretty toasted yesterday.

 

[G.Leave]

yup. Sounds same then lol. I was pretty toasted yesterday.

The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised)

Here is the very successful result of a considerable amount of research into the elusive and magical Green Dragon.

This is a simple and efficient 4 Step process.

Requirements:
1/8oz high quality cannabis
2 oz Bacardi Rum – 151 proof


Process Summary:

1. Chop cannabis very fine (coffee grinder works great)

2. Place in a shallow pan (a sheet of aluminum foil works great) and bake at 250F for 20 minutes.

3. Remove from oven and place cannabis in 2 oz of 151 proof rum (use a small wide mouth mason jar)

4. Simmer in a water bath for 20 minutes. Maintain temperature of the rum/cannabis mixture between 168- 170°F.

5. Strain the mixture and store.


Dosage:
One milliliiter (one full eyedropper) is very nice. Two puts you in space. But you must self-titrate (test it on yourself) as each batch will be slightly different. Effects take up to 1.5 hours to begin (at least in myself) and lasted for 5 hours (1 dropper) to 7-8 hours (2 droppers).

I place one eyedropper (1ml) of Green Dragon in a small glass. I then add a small amount of water (1-2 ml) and drink. Do this on an empty stomach for best results (about 20-30 minutes before eating a main meal is good).


Process details—references and rationalizations:
1. Chop the cannabis
More surface area gives means a faster and more efficient extraction.

2. Bake the cannabis.
This converts THCA to THC via a decarboxylation reaction.

3. Use the highest proof alcohol available.
Where I live this is Bacardi 151. The more alcohol the more efficient the extraction will be.

4. Simmer the mixture.
This is one of the areas that seems to be most debated. Many guides call for placing the normal cannabis into the alcohol and waiting 2 – 6 weeks. The main concern with heating the alcohol is that it is “explosive” (not exactly true...it is however flammable).

The purpose of the simmering is to heat the alcohol mixture to improve extraction rates and efficiencies. Heating during extraction increases the motion of the molecules (basic physics/chemistry) and drastically decreases extraction times. The boiling point of pure ethanol is 173°F (78°C). We will use the water bath to heat the rum/cannabis mixture to just below the boiling point of ethanol.

Heating the alcohol mixture can be done very safely using a hot water bath. You will need an accurate candy or quick read thermometer. Place about 1 inch of water in a wide, vertical-edged pan (9” diameter x 3” high). Bring the water to a low simmer. The rum/cannabis mixture should be in a small (1 pint) mason jar. Do NOT cover the jar.

Put the thermometer into the mason jar and place into the simmering water bath. Bring the temperature of the rum/cannabis mixture to about 170°F. The alcohol should be just barely boiling.

You should have the oven fan on high. You will notice that any alcohol fumes are mixed with water vapor from the water bath and vented out the fan. This combined with the fact that you are trying not to boil the ethanol makes the process quite safe.

5. Strain and store.
When you are finished with the extraction you will be left with about 1oz of green dragon tincture after you have strained the extract. Notice that one ounce of the alcohol has evaporated. See the tips below for a good way to strain the tincture.

A standard eyedropper will transfer about 1ml (or 1 gram) of liquid. There are 29 milliliters in one ounce. So you should end up with about 30 or so full eyedroppers (30 milliliters) of Green Dragon.

The liquid should be dark brownish-green and smell like cannabis.

6. Dosage. Titration.
Everybody is different. It takes me between 30-90 minutes to feel the effects of Green Dragon (depending on how much food is in my stomach).

I had tried a tincture someone had made using the cold extraction method with the same amount of cannabis and found that 5 ml (5 full eyedroppers) did pretty much nothing.

Using my Green Dragon technique I find that one dropper will bring effects on in 30-90 minutes and last 5 hours with 1.5 hours of lingering aftereffects.

Two droppers gave me a "spiritual dose" (as strong as any brownie I ever had). Effects lasted 7-8 hours with lingering effects for 2 more hours.

This means that 1/8oz of good cannabis yields about 30-34 doses of tincture (1 dropperful is really all I need). :edible:

 

[bad dragon bzzz]

mine is just green dragon. Made from a lot of trim that i had already used to make hash n shit out of.
I let herb sit in the alc for weeks lol. Pulled a lot of green out.
Which is why this golden shit confuses me

what had been done to buds before ?

 

[bad dragon bzzz]

very nice write up cheers.i have a couple of sets of droppers one of them is graduated,and a full squirt is only 0.5ml on both sets.

 

[9bear]

Good Morning A.F,N.

 

[EvilScotsman]

Ahh i see cold method green dragon....something i never tried.

its pretty decent like. i left a half oz of big bud bud in a quarter bottle of vodka for a couple month there. got me fuckin donutsd like i could barely walk, pretty colours n all sorts lol. makes your poo smell lovely too : )

 

[9bear]

Looks like we may have a white Christmas this year !!

 

[Green Goblin]

I think that snow is coming down my way today..