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[Arthur]

I can't wait :smoking: I might throw in some molasses

Unless your prepping your soil for 6 months from now, the molasses is usless... the sugar molecule needs to be broken down before it'll be available to the plant. Beautiful ladies, WW...one of my favorites !

 

[TehSnow]

Unless your prepping your soil for 6 months from now, the molasses is usless... the sugar molecule needs to be broken down before it'll be available to the plant. Beautiful ladies, WW...one of my favorites !

Any more info on this? I thirst for knowledge

 

[Rev. Green Genes]

My new EC/PPM meter gets here today, and so do my fabric pots. I got a set of 3 gallon pots to stick in the hydro room. Gonna start with my garden soil I've been cooking for a 5 years. It's been in clover for 8 months now and has been amended with everything imaginable over the last few years. Perlite, vermiculite, several pounds of quartz and other crystal and rock dusts, kelp meal, blood and bone meal, epsom salts, mollasses, cover crops, myco inoculations, teas, several types of compost, no-till for three years. before the no-till I worked the base soil with sand, gypsum, chicken poo, and lime. Should be fun to see how it does indoors. I might end up with bugs at first.

 

[Rev. Green Genes]

Any more info on this? I thirst for knowledge

when doing this indoors the thing always not planned for is how long it takes to get the soils bio-chemistry to sustain it's own cycles. Molasses works by feeding the bio life in the soil, initially the plant available nutrients are immobilized by adsorbing to soil particles and by pH reduction/oxidation/carboxylation interactions, but after a period of time they are broken down to plant available forms. If you put it in immediately, it has little to no effect. If you 'flush' your soil, you leach out all that hard work to get the critters in there happy.

 

[TehSnow]

when doing this indoors the thing always not planned for is how long it takes to get the soils bio-chemistry to sustain it's own cycles. Molasses works by feeding the bio life in the soil, initially the plant available nutrients are immobilized by adsorbing to soil particles and by pH reduction/oxidation/carboxylation interactions, but after a period of time they are broken down to plant available forms. If you put it in immediately, it has little to no effect. If you 'flush' your soil, you leach out all that hard work to get the critters in there happy.

That's why I thought the enzymes would help break it down for the plant.

 

[Arthur]

when doing this indoors the thing always not planned for is how long it takes to get the soils bio-chemistry to sustain it's own cycles. Molasses works by feeding the bio life in the soil, initially the plant available nutrients are immobilized by adsorbing to soil particles and by pH reduction/oxidation/carboxylation interactions, but after a period of time they are broken down to plant available forms. If you put it in immediately, it has little to no effect. If you 'flush' your soil, you leach out all that hard work to get the critters in there happy.

Amen...gotta have happy critterz...

 

[Arthur]

That's why I thought the enzymes would help break it down for the plant.

Better to look for something that's readily available...I haven't settled on a product yet, but there's several finishers on the market that are sucrose based, pre digested.

 

[Rev. Green Genes]

That's why I thought the enzymes would help break it down for the plant.

I am no expert by any means, but the enzymes could in theory aid in the chemistry portion of breaking it down for the bacteria and fungus to eat. In a natural system, usually the fungus start the process, and the bacteria will finish it off and release plant available nutes. Myco's on the other hand are buggers that actually grow in and around the roots and function two ways. First they increase the volume of soil that the roots have functional access to, they do this because of their size, they can get quite large and farm whole cubic yards of soil. The second eay is trading sugars from the plants photosynthesis for the aforementioned nutrients it gathers. Symbiosis. This however requires that the myco and the plant co evolve and most of these relationships are plant specific. I would have to research which ones are good for pot.

so all of those must be in some sort of balance to maximize soil nutrients.

 

[Green Goblin]

Anybody scope the latest pics from Mephisto on the auto cookies they're working on? Pheww...I want a good amount of those when they drop next year..This one I've anticipated the most.

 

[Green Goblin]

Thin mints crossed with sour Stomper...uhhh yeah