cs nanners help

[jmh]

I'm a newbie & was wondering if anyone could help me with a MI5 cs breeding experiment? I've been spraying an MI5 female with cs for 16 days & believe I'm starting to see some nanners, time will tell . I've read quite a bit about the cs method but my question is when to take the nanners from the "male" to get the pollen? I only have small tent with another female MI5 & a Dinafem auto cheese, both are budding. I would like to just pollinate 3/4 buds on each & would like to get "non seeded" buds from the rest. Only the one grow area so moving to another area isn't an option.
There's the setup, my question is what's the best way to go about it ? ~ time until nanners open, can I snip some nanners in 1-2-3 weeks & crush them to get pollen, wait ??? weeks & just take the nanner plant out & let it go near a window, etc., etc.
Any help from someone who's done this successfully would be appreciated. If everything gets pollinated I guess Ill have enough seeds for a few lifetimes.
Thanks.

 

[realcarlos]

Welcome to the site. Not sure if these links would help answer your question.
I heard that you should start the plants that you're going to use the pollen on a bit later, so they overlap

https://www.autoflower.org/f8/definitive-colloidal-silver-tutorial-9878.html

 

[seraphim19]

hey jmh

personally i put the cs sprayed plant on the window ledge when she starts to turn then take the ones to be pollinated and bring them to the window for dusting.

then i leave them out of the grow area for 2-3 days

finally i spray them down with water to kill any leftover pollen before i put them back in the growspace

it took me 2 weeks of spraying daily before the plants would turn and then another 2-3 weeks before pollen fell

If you want to protect some bud try covering it in a plastic bag when dusting or do the reverse and collect some pollen in a baggie then put this bag over a branch for two days then rinse

you have a lot of options

on the subject of crushing them to get the pollen out, i have tried this way too but with less success. i put it down to the fact that when the plant is ready it drops the pollen so by picking it i am picking immature pollen

good luck with your breeding and enjoy that dinafem cheese its stinky

 

[jmh]

Thanks for the replies folks.
Seraphim19, so it's ~ 2-3 weeks before pollen falls? Did you have any success by crushing the sacs & then applying pollen to individual buds - i.e. brush or QTip method, looks like I'm going to have a lot of nanners so I might as well try different methods ? Can I stop applying the CS now, or should I keep spraying? Have you ever tried just spraying CS on certain parts of a female plant, & will this just "nanner" that part?
Lots of questions, this is pretty interesting (at least for me ).
Thanks much for your help.

 

[seraphim19]

hey jmh
yep lots of questions lets see how i can do with some answers

Q1. Did you have any success by crushing the sacs & then applying pollen to individual buds

A. yes i did but its not as effective as letting the pollen fall naturally as when it falls by its self it is fully mature

Q2. Can I stop applying the CS now, or should I keep spraying?

A. Stop spraying. i spray until i see male parts then i stop. the male parts will continue to develop and give pollen without further cs application

Q3. Have you ever tried just spraying CS on certain parts of a female plant, & will this just "nanner" that part?

A. yes i have applied cs to just one branch before and this branch turned male while the rest stayed female (using this method you can make seed using only one plant but it is not good for the genetics in the long term)

I would also reccomend you collect and store some of your fem pollen i always store some in a little baggie with a peice of tissue paper in it to absorb any moistue and keep it sound.
its so cool to grow a plant and then think i will make a new cross and have it feminised. i do this a lot and only pollinate a small lower limb and it still gives me 50-100 quality seeds while not impacting on my total yeild

i hope i helped brother:booya:

 

[jmh]

Seraphim19, you've helped a lot. I think I'll pull the "nanner plant" out in another week, just "balls" now. I'll try the different methods you've given me, see which works best for me. Next time I try this (got a 3 seed packet of Carmelo Cream) I'll just spray a couple of branches & let the rest go to bud, I'm just a "hobby breeder" & don't need a lot of seeds.
Thanks for the feedback also from RealCarlos, but I already read the CS Tutorial & a few others, that's what gave me the idea to try this.
I'll post back on results, maybe it'll help another newbie.

 

[seraphim19]

glad to be of service my friend:dance:

 

[realcarlos]

keep us updated

 

[jmh]

Question - is it OK to cut off the top cola & branches on an auto to leave the lower pollenated buds for seeds? I started getting pollen late as I didn't start the CS plant 2-3 weeks earlier than the plants to receive pollen & I don't believe I'll get mature seeds out of the top of the plant as the hairs are already getting red & the buds are firming up. I know you can cut off the top of a photo plant & keep the rest going but don't know about autos. Best to just take the buds instead of taking the top off an auto?

*** Main lesson learned, for other newbies, from this is to start your CS'd plant 2-3 weeks earlier than the others (~2 weeks to CS when pistels show untils "balls" appear, 2 more weeks until pollen release starts - some nanners start to crack). Made my CS generator out of a 4 cup coffee pot with a pencil across the lid & duct tape, standard recharge unit with 5.3vdc & 800ma ouput, small bar of silver cut into thin strips with a Dremel Tool, & 2 alligator clips - worked fine.
Thanks for all the help. Hopefully I'll get seeds from the lower buds - ~minimum time after pollenation until mature seeds? Plan on growing plant until almost dead .

 

[ElGuapo]

I've made lots of seeds and am interested in trying to make some fem seeds, so this thread has answered a lot of my questions also.

At about 4 weeks after pollenating, seeds will be viable however the germ rate will be disappointing. At 6 to 7 weeks, pinch tested seeds will have a near 100% germ rate. These times will be a little longer for larger autos. Always let the seeds go for as long as possible. Keep the veg nutes going for the extra nitrogen.

Edit: the lower branches will continue growing just fine if you want to chop the top. The extra nitrogen helps in seed formation and will also help lengthen the lifespan of the plant.