Photoperiod Counting Flowering Weeks

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Hello everyone this morning I had a pretty heated debate. This debate was with 2 local growers. Grower one says he starts counting the first day of flower, the day he switches to 12/12. Grower two says she counts the first day of flower when she see's pistils showing. Her pistils show a week or 2 after she flips her light cycle. I told her that my plants show sex before they are even switched to 12/12. So I ask her, does that mean I count the first day of 12/12 as my first day of flowering. Because my plants already are mature showing hairs before I flip. Her reply was hell yeah, grower one says she's wrong she's a week or 2 already in the flowering stage.

I tell them both that plants are not in flowering because you cut the light to 12/12. And plants are not flowering just because their showing white hairs after flip. I tell them when I first started growing. I counted the first day I flipped the lights to 12/12 as their first day of flower. And plants were never done on time. So I stopped counting on the day I cut the light hours back. I told them to start counting first day of flower when buds are forming little cotton balls. They both disagree with me and each other. How can 3 people have different notions as to when flowering actually starts? Needless to say we were high as a giraffe's ass.

I explained my reasoning was when you actually see flowers forming. That's the first day of flower seems cut and dry but it wasn't. I said no to flipping lights and calling that flowering. Because its not flowering until you see flowers forming. We all cant be right and we all cant be wrong. Curious as to when others count the first day of flower. Sorry for the long read I am still buzzing. I am not the smartest I could be wrong one of them could be right. When do you start counting the first day of flower?
 
Interesting debate, and many will have differing views, as a photoperiod grower I couldn't say I am in flower just because I switched my lights to 12/12, as I have had some strains take weeks under 12/12 to show sex and pre-flowers. For me, it is when I see pre-flowers, and the debate with me would be what exactly is a preflower.
 
I clone continually so even my clones show sex. So I'm vegging right 18/6 so by me seeing the white pistols that's not flowering. After I flip 12/12 I wait 1 week to the day and start counting as flowering.

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I always go with when flowers show. The flip date is kind of irrelevant. Like previous poster said I have had some that show flowers fast and others that seem to take their sweet time.
 
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