Extraction Coco Butter

[Builder0101]

So I made some Cocobutter with some shake. My girlfriend kinda laughed at me thinking it would not be effective. she brought the 2 discs of butter home with her. On Monday the texted me and asked if I had put something in some food that she brought home. Of course I would never do that without discussing it with her 1st. Apparently about an hour b4 she started her sequestered work from home day she ate a piece of the butter about the size of a nickel and 1/4" thick. She was absolutely stoned to the bejeezus and went on a tangential path during her part in a large company webinar. LOL. It was just today that she remembered about eating the butter.
I have a question. Is there a ratio of volume of Coconut oil to shake? I understand that the potency of the shake has a lot to do with it but is there a rule of thumb? Can the coconut oil get to the saturation point or can it keep absorbing cannabinoids. I have a quart bag which is pretty full and she wants to make gummies.
Also if I slowly boil it for 8 hours or 4 hours etc is there a difference.
Thank you my Brothers and Sisters

 

[Builder0101]

Also should I just dump in my little bit of kief.

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

So I made some Cocobutter with some shake. My girlfriend kinda laughed at me thinking it would not be effective. she brought the 2 discs of butter home with her. On Monday the texted me and asked if I had put something in some food that she brought home. Of course I would never do that without discussing it with her 1st. Apparently about an hour b4 she started her sequestered work from home day she ate a piece of the butter about the size of a nickel and 1/4" thick. She was absolutely stoned to the bejeezus and went on a tangential path during her part in a large company webinar. LOL. It was just today that she remembered about eating the butter.
I have a question. Is there a ratio of volume of Coconut oil to shake? I understand that the potency of the shake has a lot to do with it but is there a rule of thumb? Can the coconut oil get to the saturation point or can it keep absorbing cannabinoids. I have a quart bag which is pretty full and she wants to make gummies.
Also if I slowly boil it for 8 hours or 4 hours etc is there a difference.
Thank you my Brothers and Sisters

Woops, sounds like a fun webinar! LOL

I did some canna-coco-oil for a while, it was pretty bomb.
Ratio and volumes, I used to try to calculate it a bit more scientifically, and think it got me at least in the right area.

I think (it was a while ago) I did 100 g of coco oil and 15 g (about 1/2 oz) of flower.
If figured the flower was about 10% (okay quality, minus losses due to extraction), giving me 1500 mg of cannabinoids.
I did a slow heat in a double boiler (maintaining 100C) for a couple of hours, flower in a cloth bag, then strain.
(Don't like your fingers after squeezing out the bag, oh, yeah, I got big messed up one day...)

In 100 g of coco oil, each 1 g would give about 15 mg.
It'd take about a half teaspoon in my coffee in the morning, that's about 2.5g, so 37.5 mg of cannabinoids.
That would start kicking in after about 1 hr, and build up to about 4 hrs at peak, then ease down fading after maybe 8 hrs.
Lots of other factors in intensity, food, sleep, coffee, etc. but that would last a whole day.

I think a big factor is estimating the % of cannabinoids in your herb.
Don't take breeder figures, they would be absolute optimums, unless you are a master grower.

I did 4 hrs cook, I think. Could have gone longer, but started late, and went almost all night, haha.
I don't think it adds a lot more to go to 8 hours, the increase in absorption probably starts to ease out.

Later I changed to using a soak in 95% ethanol, for just 30 minutes, strain through tea-bag paper (could use coffee filter),
then evaporate out in double boiler (temp keeps below 100C at the boiling point of ethanol).
First time I did this, basically RSO, the result was very thick and I had a hard time getting it out of the pot, wasted a lot.
So, I added straight olive oil at the end, adding 9X the amount of olive oil,
to reduce from effectively super high % RSO to a 10% cannabinoid mixture.
The result was far more liquid and workable.
Using the tea-bag paper meant it was far cleaner than the cloth bag for the canna-coco-oil as well.
It was also a lot faster, though of course, doing this with ethanol need to be super safe!
With this olive oil mix, I would store it in dropper bottles, and just do a dropper tube (not a single drop, but a dropper tube volume).
It was also very good, cleaner, tastier. Depending on strain, some very fruity!
Coconut oil is nice, but doesn't always go with other food.
Could also easily add it to other food without too much weird taste.

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

Also should I just dump in my little bit of kief.

Sure, why not? Question is -- what % cannabinoids are your kief...?

 

[Builder0101]

Sure, why not? Question is -- what % cannabinoids are your kief...?

So she is making gummies. She was testing and testing as she went. Once again she is stoned out of her mind right now. LOL. What was she thinking.

 

[Builder0101]

Woops, sounds like a fun webinar! LOL

I did some canna-coco-oil for a while, it was pretty bomb.
Ratio and volumes, I used to try to calculate it a bit more scientifically, and think it got me at least in the right area.

I think (it was a while ago) I did 100 g of coco oil and 15 g (about 1/2 oz) of flower.
If figured the flower was about 10% (okay quality, minus losses due to extraction), giving me 1500 mg of cannabinoids.
I did a slow heat in a double boiler (maintaining 100C) for a couple of hours, flower in a cloth bag, then strain.
(Don't like your fingers after squeezing out the bag, oh, yeah, I got big messed up one day...)

In 100 g of coco oil, each 1 g would give about 15 mg.
It'd take about a half teaspoon in my coffee in the morning, that's about 2.5g, so 37.5 mg of cannabinoids.
That would start kicking in after about 1 hr, and build up to about 4 hrs at peak, then ease down fading after maybe 8 hrs.
Lots of other factors in intensity, food, sleep, coffee, etc. but that would last a whole day.

I think a big factor is estimating the % of cannabinoids in your herb.
Don't take breeder figures, they would be absolute optimums, unless you are a master grower.

I did 4 hrs cook, I think. Could have gone longer, but started late, and went almost all night, haha.
I don't think it adds a lot more to go to 8 hours, the increase in absorption probably starts to ease out.

Later I changed to using a soak in 95% ethanol, for just 30 minutes, strain through tea-bag paper (could use coffee filter),
then evaporate out in double boiler (temp keeps below 100C at the boiling point of ethanol).
First time I did this, basically RSO, the result was very thick and I had a hard time getting it out of the pot, wasted a lot.
So, I added straight olive oil at the end, adding 9X the amount of olive oil,
to reduce from effectively super high % RSO to a 10% cannabinoid mixture.
The result was far more liquid and workable.
Using the tea-bag paper meant it was far cleaner than the cloth bag for the canna-coco-oil as well.
It was also a lot faster, though of course, doing this with ethanol need to be super safe!
With this olive oil mix, I would store it in dropper bottles, and just do a dropper tube (not a single drop, but a dropper tube volume).
It was also very good, cleaner, tastier. Depending on strain, some very fruity!
Coconut oil is nice, but doesn't always go with other food.
Could also easily add it to other food without too much weird taste.

Is the 1/oz to approximately 3 oz just something you did? Or did you learn that ratio from somewhere? I know it depends a lot on the flower. Let me just say this is some very good shake and small buds from a plant that kicks like a mule.

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

So she is making gummies. She was testing and testing as she went. Once again she is stoned out of her mind right now. LOL. What was she thinking.

Oh no... looks like another webinar coming up!!!

Sure, have to test, whatever the situation.
I just recommend first having some basic kind of idea about how strong your gummies or whatever will be!

And, always start with a little tiny dose.
Wait an hour, better still, wait a couple of hours, before increasing it.

Hope she's happy stoned, and not having a bad trip.

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

Is the 1/oz to approximately 3 oz just something you did? Or did you learn that ratio from somewhere? I know it depends a lot on the flower. Let me just say this is some very good shake and small buds from a plant that kicks like a mule.

I only had 1/2 oz that I wanted to use, for a start.
And I figured that 1/2 oz in a strainer cloth would need a minimum of about 100 ml of coco-oil to sit in.
Any less and the herb couldn't be fully in contact with the oil during cooking.
And I didn't want to use more oil as it would be weaker.
That's it.
If it's good shake, maybe figure 10% (for the leaf) up to 15% (popcorn) or so.

 

[Builder0101]

She's cool. Thanks. Her son who is THC ignorant (no tolerance) just went in the kitchen and ate one of the mini cupcake ones and one gummi bear. LOL.

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

And when testing, have to remember (write it down!!!) how much you took.
Otherwise can't learn for the next time,