Seed Bank Buying Flash/Stitch seeds from seed banks.

[Magic]

I wouldn't trust any "partnership" he claims. His beans are outsourced to non breeders for production and are not tested before there put up for sale.

Not completely true. Most seed banks want to see test grows and also some conduct their own tests before they will pick up a new strain. Not defending stitch. Muddy said that his breeding techniques have always been questionable, he may have some kick ass strains but when to efficiency he's not the best. Hopefully he has learned people want more stability with there strains and trying to make up for that with his newer ones. I can't say for sure only time will tell.

 

[NEimmaculates]

A little birdie told me although the strains themselves have test grows the individual batches of seeds weren't being tested and coming from the hands of non-breeders ( a breeder isn't some one who get some seeds and instructions to cross strain 'a' with 'b' to get 'c') which explains why ppl would get say KVS but it would take 120 day to finish...... Because they weren't being tested. Just grow, picked, and sold no quality control, no nothing. So yes test grows most likely were shown to any seed banks who wanted it but from there chaos runs amuck with this man. His USA distributor has just been replaced so maybe all this tomfoolery will end but as you said only time will tell

 

[Margahooja]

A little birdie told me although the strains themselves have test grows the individual batches of seeds weren't being tested and coming from the hands of non-breeders ( a breeder isn't some one who get some seeds and instructions to cross strain 'a' with 'b' to get 'c') which explains why ppl would get say KVS but it would take 120 day to finish...... Because they weren't being tested. Just grow, picked, and sold no quality control, no nothing. So yes test grows most likely were shown to any seed banks who wanted it but from there chaos runs amuck with this man. His USA distributor has just been replaced so maybe all this tomfoolery will end but as you said only time will tell[/


Here is some of my results with his gear. 2KVS, one didn't germinate, that happens, I can't hold that one against him. The other was pretty small but gave me an ounce. The Love Potion didn't auto, grew over 6 foot. Someone told me it was a photo, I'm not sure, maybe a super, it's 100 days now, maybe a couple more weeks, I don't expect more than 1.5 out of it. I had a Formula 1.it didn't auto, I scrapped it at 50 days. I do have a Russian Haze that is turning out to be a very nice plant. I guess my point is if you use his gear, it's a crap shoot. Some good, some shit, and some so so. You definitely dont want to depend on his strains. It's not worth it. His stuff has our grow all messed up and behind schedule for my wifes needs. From now on I'll drop one of his seeds once in awhile just to get rid of his stuff, while I'm growing more reputable strains from better breeders.

 

[Magic]

I dont want this to turn into a bash stitch session, its ok to tell us about your problems with his strains we really hope one day to hear more good things, but lets leave him personally out of it. i hate for anyone to say a breeder doesnt care even if their actions may not be favorable

Last thing ill say is from what i have seen and from what i gathered i feel like stitch is caught up with being the "1st" and i think it may cause him to rush strains just so he can brand it "superauto" or "automed" ect and get it on the market so he can say he was the first to do it. i dont shame him for wanting to be the "first" but its better to offer a soild product to a customer rather then market it off to people as "its the first of its kind" so i say if you get strains from him get some that have been proven to auto or what ever it is your looking for, dont grow a strain just because it is new and exciting, sometimes its good to get more info on strains before you decide to grow them. :Sharing One:

 

[Balarama]

I agree with IDS.
Autos are not a novelty anymore and getting praise for the past work while the competition is doing its best(?) to evolve autos is not a wise choice for marketing I think. Besides, hearing about lots of complaints means the seeds are not put on market properly, maybe in a rush or maybe just coincidence, but maybe bad management of seedmakers and their skills. However, I heard complaints about every big breeder's autos, not being autos, not being fems and so on; one just has to stand with their feet on the ground and head on the shoulders, not everything is always as advertised.
But saying all that and knowing he now works with a collective makes me think things are getting on the right way, working alone in this breeding world is very hard, risky and hazardous. I have a good feeling about Stitch, so far I'm very happy with the superautos, they work really well for me and I think of them like a true novelty on the seed market.

Can't say anything about other auto work, but I wish you no problems with your "stitch" seeds

 

[Margahooja]

I dont want this to turn into a bash stitch session, its ok to tell us about your problems with his strains we really hope one day to hear more good things, but lets leave him personally out of it. i hate for anyone to say a breeder doesnt care even if their actions may not be favorable

Last thing ill say is from what i have seen and from what i gathered i feel like stitch is caught up with being the "1st" and i think it may cause him to rush strains just so he can brand it "superauto" or "automed" ect and get it on the market so he can say he was the first to do it. i dont shame him for wanting to be the "first" but its better to offer a soild product to a customer rather then market it off to people as "its the first of its kind" so i say if you get strains from him get some that have been proven to auto or what ever it is your looking for, dont grow a strain just because it is new and exciting, sometimes its good to get more info on strains before you decide to grow them. :Sharing One:

Out of respect of your opinion I went back an edited some of my post. But to say to get something proven from him to grow would be very hard to do right now. And when someone sends you something you didn't order and I try to get information like you say I should do, and they will not provide me info on seeds I didnt order or even respond, that's just bad business. I was stuck with what I got. Not bashing, if somethings good, I say so. If its not i say so. I do feel people need to know. While I feel strongly on what I said originally, I'll let the rest speak for itself.

 

[South Syder]

I've read most of this thread -- and it ain't a short one!

Okay, no bashing, just facts:

I bought my beans direct from Stitch! Wasted over ten weeks waiting for two ducksfoots to auto -- they didn't! Got two blueberries going now, they've still not shown signs of budset at day 35 but, for some reason, my gut tells me they'll auto, though I have no evidence for it. Got three more strains of his to try out. If these blueberries auto I'll run them and enjoy the buds, if not, I'll pitch the bunch and stick with DP and Dinafem. Mine is, I suppose, a bonafide test grow and let the result speak for Stitch's claims of seedbanks and mixups and blah blah blah. Time will tell...but it's running out in my tent. Link below for anyone interested--

https://www.autoflower.org/f2/auto-not-auto-stitch-blueberries-lets-see-34243-6.html#post650762

 

[NEimmaculates]

It seems to me this man is playing the entire autoflower community for fools.

 

[Muddy]

All the current issues with Stitch's gear are related to his reproduction techniques. Because of the volume of seeds he sells he can't reproduce everything himself so he contracts it out. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to screen his reproducers very well. He sends them seeds and colidial silver to make fems. Apparently the reproducers are inexperienced in the use of CS and the resulting seeds are causing hermies, not autoing, stunted plants, etc. This isn't the first time he's had these issues. Same thing happened about 3 years ago and many of his strains were out of stock for 6 months until he got them reproduced correctly. So any of his regular strains should be fine, it's the fems that seem to have the issues. IMO this is just irresponsible on his part. This would all be okay if he did pre release testing but he's having some of those reproducers ship the seeds for him. So they are indeed untested. Personally I wouldn't buy any of his fem seeds until we see that he has these issues resolved.

 

[DWCocha]

didn't want to say anything but that must be why all the SCH I got either didn't germ or never auto'd:dunno: