New Grower Bikini's Royal Queen Northern Lights grow

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Yes, 6.0 should be good.

You'll only need to flush the big ones, not the seedlings. If you had straight FFOF in them, plus gave them the high feeding of the Plus, they are way overfeed. Straight FFOF has a lot of worm castings and guano in it, enough to feed the plants for the first 3-4 weeks. A good flush should help a lot.
 
Alright thanks Muddy I appreciate it, I ordered the FF Trio today, do I start on their recommended schedule at week 4?
 
Keep in mind that their schedule is meant for photos, not autos. I would give them 1/2 strength Grow Big through week 6, then switch to the flowering nutes, again starting at 1/2 strength and working up from there. Just be careful with those ones in the straight FFOF.
 
Hey guys I will post some pictures tonight, I think i am starting to see the first signs of nute burn, I flushed them two days ago so hopefully it won't be too bad. Other then that, they are all still yellow but I hope my pH is closer to normal now.
 
Here are some more pics. Tell me what you think the problem may be or how long it should take for them to turn back to green. I understand the nute burn probably won't but there is only a few spots of nute burn. I hope my Northern lights will get looking healthy again so my first grow will be a success. I wanna get a Harvest!!:smoke buds:
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Thanks in advance!
 
Whats the Ph of the water using ? Whats the ph of your runoff ? Looks like you have a lockout/deficiency, those seedlings look like mine did before i bought a ph meter and de-chlorinator from pet-smart. Them seedlings look exactly like mine did. Im using tap water with a high ph and turns out way to many contaminants for it to be heatlhy for plants, aka high PPM. I started using the water conditoner and lowered my ph to 5.6-5.8 with general hydro ph down bc what i found is that my ph likes to drift back up if the water sits so by the time it drifts back to being high im watering again to lower it meanwhile the ph swing is covering all the minerals the plant needs. The plants can only uptake cetain minerals at certain phs your plants need something try lowering your ph and keep it your runoff 5.8-6.5 and see if that helps. Anything you do is going to take a couple days before you noticed anything and sometimes the leaves never recover but new growth will be healthy so sometimes you gotta try something then wait a little while to see if its helping or working.
 
Potassium (K) Mobile Element and Macro Element

Potassium plays a big role as well. Having good amounts of potassium in your plants helps in having sturdy and thick stems, disease-resistance, water respiration, as well aids in photosynthesis. Potassium is also found in the whole plant. It is necessary for all activities having to do with water transportation. Potassium is necessary for all stages of growth, especially important in the development of Buds.

Having to little of Potassium in your plants causes the plants leaves to show retarded growth and show a scorched tip and edges around the leaves. Plants may stretch and your branches can be easily broken or weak. Don’t get this deficiency confused with iron, because it almost acts like iron but to tell the difference in the two is: for potassium the tips of the leaves curl and the edges burn and die. Older leaves may show a red colour and leaves could curl upwards. Dead patches (Necrosis) can happen on the margins of larger fan leaves thus, the leaves will eventually die off and turn brown. The Older leaves will show different patches of colour (mottle) and turn yellow between the veins, following by whole leaves that turn dark yellow and die. The plants overall growth slows down, mostly when they are in vegetative stage. To little amount of potassium also slows the growth of buds during flowering stages. Dark edges will appear around the edges of the leaf when the deficiency is starting to happen. When your Relative humidity is low, you can almost bet your going to soon get a potassium deficiency from your plants perspiration.
Potassium can get poorly absorbed when having too much Calcium or ammonium nitrogen, and maybe cold weather. Having to much sodium (Na) causes potassium to be displaced. SO keep those in mind… Parts affected by a Potassium Deficiency are: older leaves and leaf margins.

When you have too much Potassium in your soil, it can lead to big troubles, like salt damage and acid fixation of the root system, as well as too much potassium can cause a calcium deficiency. Your fan leaves will show like a light to a dark yellow to whitish colour in between the veins. Due to a molecular imbalance, potassium toxicity can cause a reduced uptake and lead to the deficiencies of Mg, and in some cases, Ca. Also leads to the other nutrients to not be absorbed properly leading to lots of other deficiency such as: magnesium, manganese, zinc and iron and can cause problems with calcium as well.

Problems with Potassium being locked out by PH troubles
Soils with excessive Leeching and High ph soils and or water.Soils that are potassium fixated. An excess of kitchen salts (sodium) in the root system/environment.


And once you have a lockout of one mineral its compunded bc then other minerals are being
lockedout i think you have a both of these lockouts


Iron (Fe) Micro Nutrient and an Immobile element

Iron is an important component of the plants enzyme and is also important for the transportation of electrons while photosynthesis is happening...

Iron reacts with many of the components of nutrient solutions, which will cause a nutrient lockup to occur, If you add to much Iron without adding enough Phosphorus, you can contribute to a phosphorus deficiency , so watch out how much iron and phosphorus your nutrients have. The Leaves on the plant can turn a pale yellow along the growing shoots, while the veins remain dark green. When you have pH imbalance, it can make iron insoluble. The tissue between the veins becomes pale or white, kind of mimics the magnesium deficiency, but not yellow, iron has the white where the yellow would be on the magnesium deficiency. The deficiency starts with the lower and middle leaves, while the new leaves become completely lacking in chlorophyll, but with little or no necrotic spots. The chlorotic mottling on new leaves starts first near the bases of the leaflets, so the middle of the leaf appears to have a yellow mark. Iron is difficult for plants to absorb and moves really slowly in the plant.
Harder for outdoor plants to absorb when in hot weather. Parts affected by the Iron Deficiency are: Young leaves and Petioles.

To much Iron can cause a problem that looks like a PH imbalance, Brown spotting on the top leaves, mainly fan leaves. Can affect the whole plant. Iron Toxicity is rare for Ph below 5.5.

Problems with Iron being locked out by PH troubles
Over watering, pests nematodes, not enough drainage, like not enough perlite. High ph, Soils with low iron, High Phosphorus, Excess Zinc, manganese or copper.

Soil

Iron gets locked out of soil growing at ph levels of 2.0-3.5
Iron is absorbed best in soil at a ph level of 4.0-6.5 (Wouldn’t recommend having a soil ph of over 7.0 in soil) anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to an Iron Deficiency.

Hydro and Soil less Mediums

Iron gets locked out of Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 2.0-3.5
Iron is absorbed best in Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 4.0- 6.0 (Wouldn’t recommend having a ph over 6.5 in hydro and soil less mediums.) Best range for hydro and soil less mediums is 5.0 to 6.0. Anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to an iron deficiency.

Solution to fixing a Iron deficiency
Any Chemical/Organic nutrients that have potassium in them will fix a Iron deficiency. (Only mixing at ½ strength when using chemical nutrients, or it will cause nutrient burn!) Foliar feed with chemical fertilizer containing Fe or rusty water can work well. Other supplements that have Iron in them are: Iron chelates, Ferric oxide, Ferrous oxide, Ferrous sulfate, all of these are fast absorption. Greensand, Cottonseed Meal is slow absorption, Garden Manure, which is medium absorption. Manure is most common organic iron source to use.


If you go look in forums informary thread then tips knolwege base you will find this https://www.autoflower.org/f7/basic-deficiencies-list-11.html should give you everyything you would wanna know about sick plants
 
Whats the Ph of the water using ? Whats the ph of your runoff ? Looks like you have a lockout/deficiency, those seedlings look like mine did before i bought a ph meter and de-chlorinator from pet-smart. Them seedlings look exactly like mine did. Im using tap water with a high ph and turns out way to many contaminants for it to be heatlhy for plants, aka high PPM. I started using the water conditoner and lowered my ph to 5.6-5.8 with general hydro ph down bc what i found is that my ph likes to drift back up if the water sits so by the time it drifts back to being high im watering again to lower it meanwhile the ph swing is covering all the minerals the plant needs. The plants can only uptake cetain minerals at certain phs your plants need something try lowering your ph and keep it your runoff 5.8-6.5 and see if that helps. Anything you do is going to take a couple days before you noticed anything and sometimes the leaves never recover but new growth will be healthy so sometimes you gotta try something then wait a little while to see if its helping or working.

Hey thanks a lot ILI, how did your girls turn out? I am trying to get my pH down a little bit, I am hoping what I did a few days ago will help them and just keep adjusting it until I get pretty well tuned in. I do have a decent meter and try to check the runoff and stuff but things seemed pretty good. I am thinking all of the soils have too high of a pH. Thanks for the help and insights. Your the man.
 
my :2cents: is stick with what muddy says, his advice will get you to a good crop! everybody that grows is impatient to get results. ithink every body has a tendency to over feed. a good flush and a small taste ofnutes, after the soil drys a little you will be back on track. the girls are growing well, just need a little of muddy's and jm's tweaking.:smokebuds:
 
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