Dutch Passion AutoMazar - MarsHydro Reflector 96

In all honesty i would make a play for hydro because its much more simple once u get the hang of it (since you must learn anyhow) because there's almost zero variables once you know what your doing. learning it is the hard part but after that its very smooth sailing. soil grows are fun ,difficult, complicated and keep you on your toes but often yield not so much.
Hydro yeilds high ,fast n easy. and easy to maintain with no risk of soil nasty's ruining the grow.i keep my tent well away from any soil or dirt and wash it with bathroom bleach regularly with bug blockers on the intake I'm just suggesting where i would put my energy for a better pay off. :D GL though bro il be waiting in anticipation for the next grow either way :D
 
The buds are starting to show some color! @IndicaIVoz Ill look into hydro, it always seemed like it'd be more difficult to me because it involves more than dirt in a pot haha. Always room to learn something new.
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Hey man, sorry to hear about the bud rot. At least you made it to the finish line.
I wanted to chime in on the gnat issue. I think, but I'm no expert, the bud rot, could be a direct effect from the gnats. The larvae feed of of fungus and roots. In extreme cases, the roots will rot, which in turn could have promoted the bud to rot. I had fungus gnats that were not nearly as bad as what I see here, and I suffered in yield, maybe 20%.
I would definitely take car of those gnats before attempting another go at it.
If, and when you do, tag me and I would love to follow along, and offer any help I can.
I apologize, for slacking on coming by, I signed up for to many journals, as usual.

Peace
 
Yeatster said:
Hey man, sorry to hear about the bud rot. At least you made it to the finish line.
I wanted to chime in on the gnat issue. I think, but I'm no expert, the bud rot, could be a direct effect from the gnats. The larvae feed of of fungus and roots. In extreme cases, the roots will rot, which in turn could have promoted the bud to rot. I had fungus gnats that were not nearly as bad as what I see here, and I suffered in yield, maybe 20%.
I would definitely take car of those gnats before attempting another go at it.
If, and when you do, tag me and I would love to follow along, and offer any help I can.
I apologize, for slacking on coming by, I signed up for to many journals, as usual.

Peace
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No worries at all. Yeah I definitely want the gnats all gone. I'm thinking of ordering some new soil, some coast of maine bar harbor blend if you're familiar with it. I don't know what the hell is going on but I cant even make it past the first set of true leaves in the seedling phase anymore and I'm wasting seeds.. I've tried everything I can think of and the only solution is to scrap the soil entirely and start new. It's just super annoying because I'm doing nothing different from my other ones... all the seeds are just saying 'fuck it I quit' after they spread their cotyledons.
And @IndicaIVoz thanks, I checked out your DWC thread. I'll talk to some friends and see if they can get me sorted for setting it up, because it is something new to me and I don't wanna spend a lot of money on the ready-made setups, or a lot of money making mistakes.
 
I am still in my first year of growing. I had done extensive reading before I began. Fungus gnats was new to me, when I first saw them. I normally dont comment on sick plants, due to my lack of experience. Fungus gnats, however, I feel okay giving advice. I tried everything I could find on the internet, to battle them bastards.
I noticed you topped your soil off with something, is that perlite? I tried that, it did nothing to combat those buggers.
I presume you quit using vinegar, to pH down. I also made the vinegar, pH dow, mistake. Lesson learned.
First off, I would highly recommend replacing those traps. They look about as full as they can get.
Secondly, I recommend, Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth. I scraped all my perlite off the top. Waited til top dried, if not already. Then I put DE in a salt shaker and applied to topsoil. When dry, it will kill larvae surfacing, by shredding them. It act like tiny shards of glass, to their soft skeletons. Everytime you water, wait for top to dry, then reapply DE.
This method, in conjunction with new sticky traps, I believe, will at least control, if not annihilate them.
Be diligent.
Fungus gnats are, most likely, not the only issue going on here. But, I do know one thing. They stress the shit out of the girls, especially babies. This stress could very well be what is throwing everything else out of whack.
I sure hope everything turns around for you. Keep this thread going, please. I would love to see you get a proper grow on.

Peace
 
Yeatster said:
I am still in my first year of growing. I had done extensive reading before I began. Fungus gnats was new to me, when I first saw them. I normally dont comment on sick plants, due to my lack of experience. Fungus gnats, however, I feel okay giving advice. I tried everything I could find on the internet, to battle them bastards.
I noticed you topped your soil off with something, is that perlite? I tried that, it did nothing to combat those buggers.
I presume you quit using vinegar, to pH down. I also made the vinegar, pH dow, mistake. Lesson learned.
First off, I would highly recommend replacing those traps. They look about as full as they can get.
Secondly, I recommend, Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth. I scraped all my perlite off the top. Waited til top dried, if not already. Then I put DE in a salt shaker and applied to topsoil. When dry, it will kill larvae surfacing, by shredding them. It act like tiny shards of glass, to their soft skeletons. Everytime you water, wait for top to dry, then reapply DE.
This method, in conjunction with new sticky traps, I believe, will at least control, if not annihilate them.
Be diligent.
Fungus gnats are, most likely, not the only issue going on here. But, I do know one thing. They stress the shit out of the girls, especially babies. This stress could very well be what is throwing everything else out of whack.
I sure hope everything turns around for you. Keep this thread going, please. I would love to see you get a proper grow on.

Peace
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Huge respects man. Yep, made quite a few of those exact mistakes. I'll take the traps out right now, was wondering how often I should replace them. And that top layer is gnat nix. It has been slightly effective but I still am considering getting those mosquito dunks with Bt-israelensis so they can chomp on the larvae. I had read up on diatomaceous earth but I had read some people say it wasn't as effective as the gnat nix.
I'm really hoping I can put together a proper grow, but things are seeming pretty hurt right now.
 
AutoIndi said:
Huge respects man. Yep, made quite a few of those exact mistakes. I'll take the traps out right now, was wondering how often I should replace them. And that top layer is gnat nix. It has been slightly effective but I still am considering getting those mosquito dunks with Bt-israelensis so they can chomp on the larvae. I had read up on diatomaceous earth but I had read some people say it wasn't as effective as the gnat nix.
I'm really hoping I can put together a proper grow, but things are seeming pretty hurt right now.
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I have not tried the gnat nix. So, I can't comment on that. The stickies, I believe, last up to 3 mo. But, if they are full, I'm assuming they've done their job. At least, when you have new stickies, you can monitor your progress better. Hard to tell how, progressively, effective they are, without being able to count, each day.
The mosquito dunks, I've tried. Didn't seem to help either.
I would assume, your gnat nix isn't doing so well either.
I would change stickies asap, regardless. At least, to see exactly how bad infestation is, now. Maybe gnat nix is working. Do you see them flying around, especially when watering?
One other thing I did, which seemed to help considerably, short term. I started watering from the bottom. Placing pots in a tub of feed, letting it wick. It definitely seemed to help for a while. Then, a week later, gnats were flying out of the drainage holes, which I had never seen, nor heard of. Maybe alternating from top, to bottom feed??? Just a thought. The key, is definitely to keep soil as dry as possible, IMO. Harder said than done though. It's a double edged sword.

Peace
 
wow quite a ride on this grow. Sometimes pests do determine harvest, and you got some bud in the jars which os the name of the game, well done
 
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