Dutch Passion autofrisian journal

[krazylicous]

lol easy enought mistake to make hey
surly when trichs turn amber there degrading?
my friend has checked it and said top cola is mainly milky and rest of bud zones are turning.
right im just going off what muddy has said in the newbie forum

This is no joke, for my first 2 grows I did not know the difference between Pistols and Trichs :/ and harvested early the first 2 full grows lol I would say wait until you see a few that are amber. Trichs go from clear to milky to amber. When people are saying that the yellowing leaves will make it more of a couch lock high it is really the trichromes developing and the terrepines ripining inside the head of the trichrome. It's not the yellowing leaves that give a different high it is the development of the trichromes

 

[derek420colorado]

Oh and Muddy is a wealth of knowledge and knows exactly what he is talking about. I just have a feeling it is easier for people to read the leaves vs the trichs because not everyone has a scope. But they have a direct coorliation so you can use both as a measure of when to harvest. It is just more "acccurate" going by the trichs in my Humboldt opinon

Also no the trichs arent degrading when they turn amber that is when they are fully ripened and all of the terrepines that are going to be in there are at that time.

Me personally over the years would puropsfuly harvest myself some personal buds that were waaaaay to early just because the high was exactly what I liked. I like a clear trich because to me the high hits instantly when the trichs are clear.

Again this is just from my expereince and by no means am an expert like Muddy. I would go by what he says 100% of the time he is a straight G!

 

[krazylicous]

no offense but did you not see the pic blue posted ?

 

[krazylicous]

would one not harvest when trich are amber not cleanse when amber because might be too late ?

 

[derek420colorado]

OK so with Photoperiod plants the most commonly accepted harvest time is when 70% of the trichs are amber(more or less depending on how narcotic you want the stone to be) So when 1 or 2 out of 10 are amber start to flush, then by the time you are done flushing approx 50% or more will be amber. I didn't see the pic Blue posted but I will check now, I don't know how I missed it lol

 

[krazylicous]

right i get what you mean, but considering mine are milky or near enough all milky if a cleanse for two weeks they should be amber by then right ?

 

[derek420colorado]

Anhh I see where the confusion is, it says the THC is starting to degrade at this point. I don't know where that came from but I think that was more for illistrative purposes to let you know what to look for(If I am wrong let me know Blue) but I have done extensive testing on the different stages of trich development and I can say with a fair amount of certaninty that the THC doesnt degrade to any distigushable level while still on the plant and in the gland head.

The reason you get a different kind of high is because the THC is changing kind of like wine and whiskey age. Different molcules settle and react with others to get a differnt mixture at different times thus resulting in a different effect.

The way THC breaks down or degrades is with heat or solvents. Now with all of that said I know that the plant starts to do weird stuff when you leave it too long, most times it will hermie on you as a means of self preservation(this is how DJ Short first started getting Feminized seeds) and people do say that the THC starts to break down and do funky stuff when left too long, I have never had that problem and have never known anyone else to have that problem either. While I am sure there are negative consequences(sp?) to leaving it past the proper time but I just have never explored that aspect of growing canna

 

[derek420colorado]

right i get what you mean, but considering mine are milky or near enough all milky if a cleanse for two weeks they should be amber by then right ?

Yeah in theory that is what should happen the reason I think most people say to wait until you see amber is because you know then that it has happened. So I would say once you see your first amber trich(you will know it when you see it) start to flush. Because then you KNOW when you are done flushing it will have loads of amber trichs

 

[krazylicous]

right ok you have proper enlightend me core we were gonna start flushing 2mos,
so considering most are milky do you recon 1 more nute feed ?

Edit: i cant say thanks enough for your wealth of knowledge

 

[derek420colorado]

No problem, when did you feed last? If you have not fed for a while and your regularly scheudled feed is upcoming and no amber then yes feed again once and then start the flush the first sighting of the amber trich. Even if it's a day or two after you feed start flushing once you see the amber because from then on you have 7-10 days left before the trichs amber up all the way.

Now I will say this that I have read through a few different threads and some auto strains will not ever get to 70% amber(this is also why I think some folks use the leaves to determine when to harvest) SO if you havent seen any amber trichs by the time the next feeding is scheduled(this would be the 2nd) then go ahead and flush her and harvest 7-10 days later.

Oh and also this is the time when you will see your buds swell up tremendously! In almost all of the plants you see grown the last 2 weeks a lot of plants can double the weight of their buds. The most exciting time I think.