Indoor Army of Dankness - Bruce's Blueberries

Intro
  • This will be an on-going 2x2 perpetual grow while I use up the rest of my current beans and optimize my feed levels.

    Based on my first grow, this strain is large enough that four at a time overcrowds my tent. So, I'll be starting with two at a time staggered ~5 weeks apart.

    I'll be trying to confirm whether the optimal feed levels from recent studies by Bernstein and Zheng are applicable to this auto strain and/or whether they need to be reduced for autos.

    I'll be starting with Mega Crop 2-part and adjusting as needed to hit my elemental ppm targets.

    Basic Specs:

    Base StrainILGM Blueberry AF
    Number of Plants:2x2
    Indoor / Outdoor:Indoor
    LightPhlizon CREE Cob Series 2000W (400W Actual)
    TentGorilla 2' x 4'
    Pots3-gal Fabric and/or Airpots
    MediaPro-Mix HP (70/30 Peat/Perlite)
    Base NutrientsGLN - Mega Crop 2-Part
    GLN - Sweet Candy
    TrainingSingle Topping (~2-3 weeks / 3rd or 4th node)
    LST
     
    Feed Strategy
  • Based on the Bernstein & Zheng studies, my overall target nutrient concentrations are outlined below for each growth stage:

    Vegetative Plan:
    • Min / Max N = 30 / 240 ppm
    • Target N = 160 - 190 ppm
    • Min P = 15 ppm
    • Target P = 60 ppm
    • Min K = 15 ppm
    • K:Ca:Mg Ratio = 4:2:1
    • Nominal Target K:Ca:Mg = 200 / 100 / 50 ppm
    Flowering Plan:
    • Option #1: Same as Veg Feed
    • Option #2: Reduce N by 25% - 50%; Increase P by 0% - 50%
    Seedling Plan:
    • Veg Feed at 25% - 50% strength
     
    Mega Crop Plan
  • For the first batch, I'll reduce N / boost P during flowering. Depending on how that goes, I may run the second batch using the same veg formula throughout the entire grow.

    Crunching the numbers gives the following feed rates and elemental concentrations for the first batch:

    Part A
    (g / gal)
    Part B
    (g / gal)
    Sweet Candy
    (g / gal)
    Epsom Salts
    (g / gal)
    Seedling (33% Veg)1.2870.82500
    Veg3.92.500
    Flower1.31.72.00.8

    NPKCaMgSCuFeMoZnBMnSi
    mg/Lmg/Lmg/Lmg/Lmg/Lmg/Lmg/Lmg/Lmg/Lmg/Lmg/Lmg/Lmg/L
    Seedling (33% Veg)50.7917.8173.3941.4121.4224.820.101.020.030.340.100.200.24
    Veg153.9053.96222.40125.5064.9175.220.313.090.101.030.310.620.72
    Flower86.7980.24192.5785.3447.6468.400.101.030.030.340.100.210.24

    For reference, here's the elemental wt% for each:

    ProductNPKCaMgSCuFeMoZnBSiMn
    Megacrop Part A5.005.2421.5806.37.30.030.30.010.10.030.070.06
    Megacrop Part B15.500019000000000
    Sweet Candy011.7822.410130000000
    Epsom Salts00009.8130000000
    Note: Based on label GA amounts, after converting phosphate and potash wt% to elemental P/K wt%.
     
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    Germination Protocol
  • After some seedling issues during my first grow, I want to make sure I find a relatively simple and consistent method that will work for me for initial germination.

    I suspect the troubles in my first grow were mainly pH issues. Peat starts somewhat acidic, and Pro-Mix notes that it can take up to a week for the included lime to begin to dissolve. So, I'll wet them and let them sit for a while before germinating.

    I'll then try to add a bit of a pre-buffer, then start saturated with my selected seedling feed.

    Here's the basic plan I'll try to follow at first:
    • Fill containers - Measure dry weight
    • Saturate with distilled / RO - Measure wet weight
    • Sit for at least 1 week
    • Feed ~1/4 - 1/2 gallon of full strength feed
    • Sit at least overnight
    • Flush with 1x - 2x capacity of starting seedling feed. Let drain.
    • Add ~8 oz distilled / RO. Check run-off pH.
    • If pH is acceptable, plant seeds directly in container.
    • Place container under lights to provide heat. Use humidity domes as needed once sprouted.
    For the first batch, the containers initially sat wet for ~2 weeks. I pre-buffered with full strength bloom feed from my current grow (i.e., I just used whatever was left over after feeding my current plants). I'm sure I could do better, but we'll see how these first seedlings handle it.

    The first batch took ~84 hrs to break the surface. I may have planted a bit too deep, or the delay could have been due to low moisture / high nutes. I may switch to paper towels for the initial cracking for later batches, but at least the first two are up and underway:

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    Batch 1 - Day 5
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    - Been ignoring these girls and focusing on finishing my other grow. But, they look healthy if not growing a bit slow - so, probably room to increase strength / watering.

    - Ordered some RAW Grow All-in-One. Wasn't able to compensate for my tap water easily with MC2 - I had to either take an N reduction, take a hit on my K:Ca:Mg ratios, or cut it with another product. Based on the products I have data for, RAW Grow looked like a better base for the Ca levels in my tap (~200 total hardness, ~100 calcium hardness, ~35 mg/L elemental Ca). I'll post new formula amounts once I switch over to it, but still using MC2 and demin/condensate for now.
     
    Batch 1 - Day 11
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    - Coming along well - can probably start training a bit soon. Gave them their first complete soak a few days ago - still at the 33% Veg formula.

    - @AutoBobje referred me to a good nutrient calculation program (HydroBuddy v1.97) that uses individual industrial salts. Will be good for later batches when I try to fine tune nutrient levels. Their site also has a good discussion on predicting EC of the final solution.
     
    Batch 1 - Day 14
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    - Still looking pretty good. Increased feed to 50% Veg strength.

    - Tried topping for the first time. Was trying not to miss, but may have cut too close - looks like I may have gotten one or two bud sites? We'll see how it recovers and maybe wait a few more days next time.

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    Batch 1 - Day 17
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    - One of the growing tips is a bit mangled from the topping, but otherwise powering through. Not sure if they're too green (high N) or not - but I'll start increasing strength while going to an alternate feed-water schedule.

    - Seems a good bit shorter / bushier than last grow. I gave them white light only / less red during the first week - so maybe that kept them a bit shorter. Challenge now is feeding them without splashing / burning leaves.

    - Need to start thinking of moving them into the main tent as the current plants finish up - i.e., shelves/crates for different heights, temps/rh vs. age, etc to set the tent up for a perpetual grow.

    - Got spreadsheet setup to track / record / report weights:

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    Batch 1 - Day 30
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    - Day 30 - Doing surprisingly well, considering I'm intentionally trying to overfeed them...

    - Snapped one of the top colas on #2 about halfway through while training. Grow tip is still alive, but the fan leaves are dying off for that cola.

    - They've been on the full 100% Veg formula for the past week (~900 ppm-500). Reasonably dark green leaves, but doesn't seem to be too much N so far. Some random yellowing on a few bottom leaves, but that may just be left-over feed splash from early on.

    - Haven't been focusing much on RH, which has been pretty low while they've been in the closet. Will probably move them over to the tent this weekend (finally).

    - Xmas travel is going to be a challenge. Ordered materials to put together some cheap wifi-controlled drip buckets, so we'll see how those work out.

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    Batch 1 - Day 44
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    - Day 44 - Moved them into the main tent. Looks like they are just starting to stretch.

    - Still no issues from feed levels, although a decent amount of yellowing / wilting leaves on bottom. But, from last grow, I think this is normal for my setup - just the bottom leaves wilting and dying off from getting no light.

    - As far as perpetual grow - I had been hoping to fit "2 adults + 2 juveniles" in the tent. But, after topping these first two, they've spread out to take up all the tent space. So, I may just go to a straight "2 at a time" grow schedule going forward.

    - I should be switching to the bloom formula soon, but I'm also going on travel for a week for the holidays. Not sure how well my low-budget drip setup will work - I may end up killing them while I'm away. We'll see how well they do, but I may just keep these two on the same veg formula for the entire grow, or wait until I get back to switch formulas.
     
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