Are opiate pain meds worth it?

[F.N.]

Are opiate pain meds worth it?


We all know, or think we do, of the negative side of opiates. I ponce spent 2 months on Fentanyl, a synthetic morphine. For which i spent 10 days in hell to get off of.

And now let me tell you whats even worse.

I was given Percoset for pain. i decided i'd use them the shortest time i could. So i took 2 as per prescription, every 6 hours for three days. Then I decided that was enough. I felt fairly good and pain was tolerable. 12 hours later I didn't feel so good. 24 hours later I was in full withdrawal.sick stomach, cramps, sweats.

its now 48 hours and I'm still sick, although its a bit better.
So, three days of pain relief has cost me almost three days of pain and sickness. So what did I gain from this????????

maybe people need to start saying no to opiate pain meds. Pain is no fun but it does serve a purpose or our bodies wouldn't create it. Maybe we need to learn to deal with it in some situations. Maybe doctors are too liberal with prescriptions. Personally, I'm beginning to think that opiates should not be prescribed for use outside of a hospital, and that part of the recovery process should include detox/withdrawal management as standard procedure. They pump you full of this shit, then dump you off to home to deal with it on your own!

If I ever have to do this again, I WILL find a way to do it without highly addictive substances! I believe I'd be farther along with my recovery than I am.

In Canada back in the late eighties early nineties it was class one pain killer it was meant for Cancer patients only. Somehow some way the powers that be got it changed to a class two pain killer. So a broken toe to a bad back a family Physician could prescribe Percocet. With in a few years the huge addiction started. In 1996 the Lilly corporation came up with OXYCOTIN they had there salesman an women go around telling doctors/Nurses it was the new pain killer that was not addtictive due to its time realease I shit you not I have talked to more than one nurse an doctor that was told that. Big Pharma the real DRUG DEALER.

 

[lilm00re14]

Hmm. I wonder who might have helped fund the anti cannabis propaganda. When we now know so many of the health benefits of cannabis and yet its in the same category as heroin... put that aside and examine the hemp plant more specifically. We can eat and survive off of the hemp seed.. make clothes. Build houses. Build cars. Make ethenol from hemp and can run a car off of ethenol made from hemp (thank you henry ford )it can grow anywhere without the need for all the "wonderful advances from monsanto"..can we slap a list together of who might benefit from outlawing this plant.. then make a list of reasons this plant should be outlawed? So whoever claims ownership over my body and tries to tell me a plant that grows naturally is illegal for me to utilize...especially one of such powerful medicinal value. Such a person is a criminal attempting to rob me of my natural born right to the fruit that the earth bears for me and interfering with natural law. These laws could be changed if we change our mindset and realize that we put politicians in posititions of trust. Any politician enacting legislation that is harmful to me or anyone else is in breech of trust and can be removed from office. And any legislation passed by a criminal can just as easily be repealed. (Patriot act, NDAA etc.)
We are all powerful

 

[pop22]

yep, I do all these things. But I have no experience using them for this type and level of pain so I went with what i was told would work.. I won't make that mistake again!

You should consider growing high cbd strains of cannabis. They work very well for pain without feeling "fucked up" royal queen seeds medical mass has about 11%cbd 10%thc . Euphoria has about 10%cbd 9%thc. Making edibles or doing an ethenol extraction and putting oil into gel caps works very well. But i personally think just butter and make some edibles works just as well. The 1:1 ratio of cbd to thc is from my experience great for chronic pain . (Get it? Chronic ^.^)

 

[pop22]

Thanks Mossy! it was for the rotator cuff repair. it was a bad tear and took almost three hours to fix... my shoulder looks like i was run thru with a sword!
Ive felt very good today, very little pain. doing a little one handed gardening...lol!

Poor pop..feel Well soon..

When I got hit with a big dose of morphine..hospital..I counted 20 odd Days of side effects......BUT I wasn't in a position to refuse it.

What pain are they giving you the meds for..the new injury..or old war wounds..?

Morphine and canna both contain Alkaloids...IMO..the Alkaloids are the pain killers we seek..AND we can do quite a lot for pain with some cheap complimentry meds to use alongside the canna.

If you want details...yell for a med Mod..

 

[dankstyle J]

I hope you recover quickly pop22 being hurt is no fun

 

[pop22]

yet now, even though they "control" how much you can have, you can get it if you stub your toe......

IF you plan to use canna for pain meds, oil-hash-or extract capsules are my choice no.1. i vape for pleasure but also to keep extend the duration of relief given by the caps 9 or edibles )

pm me if you want more info on my methods/dosing, etc.

I have been on Oxycodone for going on 8 years now. I take the 20mg Instant release version called Roxicodone. 4 a day that totals out to 80mg. I am in a great deal of pain because of a kidney condition, the main problem with opiates are -(1)-Tolerance- even if you do not abuse your medication tolerance will occur eventually I started noticing it around year 4 that the dose I was on started not working as well, that being what it is I refuse to go any higher with my dosage because of #2. (2)-Physical Dependence/Addiction- In the 8 years I have been on this medication I have never abused the medication, I take it at the same time EVERYDAY if for some reason I miss a dose I deal with the hell that is about to ensue and find a way to make it to my next dose. Physical Dependence happens with opiates NO MATTER WHAT. You can't avoid this, to me your body being physically reliant on something and Mental Addiction are totally separated in the fact of if something were to happen and I could not get my medication, I would not let my mind take control of my actions.. I would endure the hell of withdrawal until it was over... and trust me it is hell. (3)-Withdrawal-Once you decide to stop taking the medication even if you decide to ween down to next of nothing you WILL GET SICK, it is not really the amount you are taking rather than the amount of time you have been on the medication. So just be prepared for hell. PLEASE DO NOT ABUSE ANY OPIATES they defiantly can be used for good, they help me live my life but on the other hand that is why I started smoking Cannabis again is to prepare myself to get off Opiates and try to rely on Cannabis for my pain relief. Anyways I hope this helps. Have a mellow day guys and much luv.

 

[lilm00re14]

yep, I do all these things. But I have no experience using them for this type and level of pain so I went with what i was told would work.. I won't make that mistake again!

Poppy tea. ^.^

 

[pop22]

i had 2 back surgeries in the early 90's. in 2008 i also got rear-ended. and i was bent forward reaching into my back pocket for my phone when we were hit. i had whiplash so bad the next day it hurt to even chew food. i wad told i needed vertebrae in my neck needed to be fused and a steel plate for support would be needed. i refused treatment. i had the nerve plexus in my left shoulder burned to kill neck/shoulder/arm pain permanently instead.i have other neck pain they can do nothing for without sugery.
so i do understand Elvis!

and so all this points out we need to help bring about a revival of herbal medicine and with the beginnings of legalization it can be a combined front!

@pop22 this happened to me in 2012 wile I feel like I have fully recovered my back took a hard hit!
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[surffreak]

Man oh man can I relate to this thread, I've been down the prescription road before for nerve damage in my knee, that led to heroin because it was cheaper, and of course it was a downward spiral from there. I can definitely recommend kratom but with some caution, in the powdered leaf form it can cause severe stomach issues if taken regularly, and while it isn't VERY addictive, it still is, and probably isn't the best thing to rely on daily. If it really is needed often there are leaf extracts that don't cause nearly as many issues for the stomach. I sell a lot of it at my store and it has helped hundreds of my customers so far.
Recently I've been doing more edibles and have found if I keep eating them day after day I get to a point where I don't feel that high but there's hardly any pain at all! Not the easiest point to get stoned from a bowl though... lol

A big medical grade hug to all who suffer from chronic pain!

 

[GCase]

Excellent thread. No one can ignore the assistance canna gives one to tamper off the heavy prescription drugs. Like Grey Bear--having them is often comforting for a day/night of pain free joy. However, they are so very tempting. I had big time dental work--a few weeks ago. Of course, I had jaw pain but not enough to justify opiates--but, used them anyway for respite from back pain.

Would be real interested in a thread about Kratom. About six months ago--purchased Green Malay--100 grams from Amazona--the next week all Kraton products were removed. The co was Hawsbill out of Florida. Husband and wife team.
Have not used any for the reviews are all so positive--I am apprehensive. Like the early days of coke. I knew it was too good to be true and never used any. Plus so many strains and colors etc. etc.


Cheers and less pain to all.