A few breeding questions..

[EverythingsHazy]

I got the feeling that some of the collaborative breeding programmes at Dutch Passion had been to make F1 crosses between different auto lines that were less closely related. I don't recall which strains they were though. It would make sense from a commercial perspective because as well as adding vigour it would offer additional protection from amateurs trying to breed the strain themselves.

That would suck...

And also, do you think these firstleaves are damaged physically or is it a genetic deformity, because it was going to be the pollen donor to another Akr but I dont want to start with a deformity in the mix lol.

Other baby is this one and can just be selfed if anything...

 

[Dr Who]

From what I have read it is not too uncommon for leaf deformities to be heritable traits. There is something on it in the breeders bible if you have a copy (can't really say that I'd recommend buying it though). From my own growing experiences I would say that it seems fairly rare for these kinds of minor deformities to continue after the very early stages of growing. I certainly haven't seen any plants that have continued to show these kinds of traits.

If they are F1 crosses of different inbred lines then you will have the full spectrum of diversity of the parents from which to make your selections for the next generation. Suck it and see?

 

[EverythingsHazy]

Mhm. It could def be heritable, the thing is they are both damaged in exactly the same way in the same spot so Im thinking maybe it got cut or something while the leaves were still small and forming. Not sure. Ill get a better pic later.

 

[GoAuto6]

Mhm. It could def be heritable, the thing is they are both damaged in exactly the same way in the same spot so Im thinking maybe it got cut or something while the leaves were still small and forming. Not sure. Ill get a better pic later.

I agree with ETH It looks like to me As they were in a young cluster some water might of got on them and burned them.... New growth looks good....

 

[EverythingsHazy]

Hope so. Can it be neem that caused this?
Next set of leaves. Still Doesn't look genetic to me.
It's been heavy needed twice already cuz of thrips. Maybe that caused the first leaf problem too..?

Not to be paranoid, but I want the best of the best only for breeding lol. Akr is some POTENT stuff.

 

[Epic Genetics]

spraying seedings (even with water) is most likely the cause

get yourself some lady bugs or you may never rid yourself of them nasties

peace

 

[EverythingsHazy]

I agree with ETH It looks like to me As they were in a young cluster some water might of got on them and burned them.... New growth looks good....

Hope so. Can it be neem that caused this?
Next set of leaves. Still Doesn't look genetic to me.
It's been heavy needed twice already cuz of thrips. Maybe that caused the first leaf problem too..?

Not to be paranoid, but I want the best of the best only for breeding lol. Akr is some POTENT stuff.

spraying seedings (even with water) is most likely the cause

get yourself some lady bugs or you may never rid yourself of them nasties

peace

Great, thanks for confirming my original suspicions. I thought it looked like physical damage vs genetic defects, but it's better to be safe before starting any breeding lines.

 

[Epic Genetics]

just another thing ive noticed , first leaves looking like that are quite common imho when sprouted under high humidity conditions , would be similar to spraying them

 

[EverythingsHazy]

just another thing ive noticed , first leaves looking like that are quite common imho when sprouted under high humidity conditions , would be similar to spraying them

Today, after beig topped about two days ago, the auto in the pic was sprayed twice with "biosilver 250ppm" spray (only cuz it did make male flowers on a plant before so it does work) throughout the day. However, after thinking about it, the other plant was also sprayed and grown in the same humidity, and did not have any problems, so perhaps it isn't best to use pollen from this one? A lot of the newer leaves on the branches that formed as a result of topping, have tips missing or deformed on at least the middle blade. Still looks like a problem that can be remedied, vs a genetic condition, but as to why the other one looks much nicer in the same conditions not more than a foot to the side, is what put me off...
If it is never prayed again, can it still grow normal buds? or should it be killed?
It just put out some pistils today or yesterday.
Any input?

 

[Epic Genetics]

Today, after beig topped about two days ago, the auto in the pic was sprayed twice with "biosilver 250ppm" spray (only cuz it did make male flowers on a plant before so it does work) throughout the day. However, after thinking about it, the other plant was also sprayed and grown in the same humidity, and did not have any problems, so perhaps it isn't best to use pollen from this one? A lot of the newer leaves on the branches that formed as a result of topping, have tips missing or deformed on at least the middle blade. Still looks like a problem that can be remedied, vs a genetic condition, but as to why the other one looks much nicer in the same conditions not more than a foot to the side, is what put me off...
If it is never prayed again, can it still grow normal buds? or should it be killed?
It just put out some pistils today or yesterday.
Any input?

ive tested the spraying then stopping theory , id have to go back to my initial test to know for sure , but i sprayed for 2 days , maybe 3 , then stopped , the plant was in veg though and not 12/12 , it eventually got flowered at 12/12 and grew 100% female

as for using a 250 ppm colloidal silver (not possible , read the definition of a colloid) , it sounds more like stress induced hermie flowers rather then reversed male flowers , you are most likely smothering the plant with a silver "paste" causing it to not breath/transpire and making it hermie

peace