Indoor 400 W hps + 105 W cfl closet grow

[listen2marley]

Ok everyone this is my first journal on here. Its also my first indoor grow, though I have done numerous outdoor grows. Im using a 400W hps and 105Ws of cfls. Well anyways, im using 2 fabric pots and 1 regular. The strains im growing are 1 narcotherapy auto 1 NL X BB auto and 1 White Widow. The white widow is technically a photo according to the breeder but it goes from seed to harvest in 10 weeks. I acually wanted some opinions on this because I am growing it with 2 autos so what should I do for a light cycle? right now im doing 24/0 but my question is will this photo flower under say 18/6? Its from spliff seeds gold line and I even emailed them to check that the stats were correct and they say it only is in veg for 1 week and flowers for 9. I didnt plan on using this strain for this grow but I had a flash babylon auto that died a few days after sprouting for some reason so I wanted to fill the space and figured it would be a good test to see how this strain works. The white widow and NL X BB are both in fox farm soil and the narcotherapy is in this new soil I found called Mass Whole and Im using the master mix. It feels great and so far the narco is growing better than the others so I think I will be getting more of this soil. My flash babylon that died I had in this 420 soil which I thought was going to be great it said I just use the soil and dont even need nutes, well I think my plant died because of the soil. After I watered it for some reason it got rock hard then when it dryed it stayed really hard it was very odd. Right now im not using any nutes untill they get bigger all I have used is this powder kelp mixed into the water (you will see in the pictures that some leafs have dark spots on them which is just from the water because it turns really dark when I mix it in). For water I have been going back and forth between rain water and water I put through my brita filter then let sit out for 24 hours. Any opinions on what is better? I always felt rain water really helped my outdoor plants but could never be sure so any help would be appreciated because I have about 10 gallons saved up. My temp right now stays at about 70degrees sometimes a little lower sometimes a little higher and the humidity stay around 45-50% but usually closer to the 45 area. If theres any other questions feel free to ask and of course if anyone has any tips or things I need to change to make it a better grow please tell me. The only way to learn is asking questions and people giving me tips and info from what they know. I am not new to growing but am new to growing indoors so im sure Im not doing everything that I could so would love to hear people opinions. and Ill show a picture of my setup I have the hps roughly 1 1/2 feet or a little higher above the plants and the narco therapy has 2 cfls on it (1 45W and 1 20W) and the white widow and NL X BB both have 1 20W cfl each. do you think I have enough wattage to grow 3 plants good or is it not enough? Please let me know if there are any changes I should make to the setup.
NL X BB
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Narcotherapy
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White Widow
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My setup, front left is Narcotherapy behind it is White Widow and to the right is the NL X BB
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[namvet25]

The most common light scheduale for autos is 18/6.Photos need a 12/12 to go into flower so that strain from Spliff seeds that they say only is in veg for one week and than goes into flower can't be a photo.A photo will stay in veg until you go 12/12 where autos will flower on there own no matter what light hours you use.You should have enough light with your hps and cfl's for your two plants.Iwould try and raise your temps and humidity if possible.

 

[1guy1plant]

Hey Listen2marley, I am about 20 days into my first grow. I have done alittle research on growing photos with autos because with my 5 auto seeds I received 10 random freebie photo seeds. I think it will be fun to see how each strain grows next to others and I am very inpatient and want to get them in some soil. What I have determined is that it is possible but not the best thing to do. (All this is just my opinion from internet research, so if anyone disagrees please let me know. So I don't go forward with the wrong impression).

The autos can take up to 24 hours of light their whole growth cycle. I am running 20/4 under leds. Once you go to 12/12 to get the Photo to flower the autos will continue to grow but will not grow to their full potential under a longer light cycle. So you may be giving up some yield on your autos to promote your photo plant. I have read where some people will have a veg and a flower room. The autos and vegging photos can be grown together and when it is time to flower the photo they move the photos into a separate flower room under a different light cycle.

I have not used rain water but I have read that a lot of people like it and I have set up a little rain catch but just a few days ago. You did not mention anything about ph levels of your soil and water. It seems that this is very important. I purchased a ph pen from amazon for about $20. (I did a bad job mixing my soil for this first grow and I have been fighting high PH levels).

I think you have enough light. My understanding is that 50watts per square ft of growing space is good but a little more is even better. 30 watts is the minimum per ft/sq.

pic of my grow

 

[listen2marley]

So hopefully the pictures work this time. Right now my plan is to try and let the WW veg untill the autos finish then flip it over to 12/12 so that everyone gets to grow to their full potential.

I got my temps up, finally got a heater in there so its always between 75-85 now usually around 80 though. my RH is at 35 I plan to get a cool mist humidifyer soon to bring that up as well.

As far as PH goes Iv been growing outdoors for awhile now and never delt with PH and havnt had any problems, and Im not having any issues indoors either yet (knock on wood) so I always say if it aint broke dont fix it.

My narcotherapy is really thriving, the WW is too. The NL x BB was really going slow but just recently started growing good once I went from 24/0 to 24/4 just think it needed a few hours of sleep every day and it seems good to go. The narcotherapy was started nov. 1st and these pictures are from yesterday, and its already showing pistils you just cant see them in the picture.

The WW and NL x BB started on nov 5th so they are a few days behind and I have not seen any pistils on the NL x BB yet but its much smaller than the narco and a few days behind do sure itll start up soon.

Im adding 2 more 20W CFLs tomorrow as well as a new plant. Its a super silver haze auto from marijuana-seeds.nl. Any one ever grow this strain from them? Or any of their strains for that matter? They refuse to say what breeder the seeds come from because they claim they sell them cheaper than the breeders and that was their agreement which makes no sence to me you think the breeders would want their names pn the seeds no matter what.

Any one think 4 plants with what I have for lights is going to be a problem? I had a flash babylon auto at the begining but it broke through the soil then literally just stopped growing so I tossed it, but it was acually only with 2 other plants at the time I have not had 4 plants in this closet yet. Im using 420 soil anyone else ever used it? Its what I had the flash babylon in and it felt really wierd I almost thought its why it died but it wasnt cheap so im going to give it one more try and if the SSH dies then Ill know the soil sucks.

Thats it for now please feel free to ask any questions and please make suggestions on what I can be doing better and dont be shy to tell me Im flat out doing something wrong because Im still very new to the whole indoor growing Im used to the sun doing all the work. Good day all!

Narcotherapy (cream of the crop seeds)

NL x BB (world of seeds)

White Widow (spliff seeds)

 

[GMan]

Sorry it's taken so long to look in man. Looks like you're bang on track. Keep the updates coming man

 

[listen2marley]

been awhile everythings looking great. the WW is flowering under a 20-4 schedule so im kind of thinking it must be an auto or something which is fine with me.
narcotherapy



heres the White Widow


the BB x NL
grew into a cfl bulb and got burnt so i had to try and fim/top
this is a side bud
and finally I started a super silver haze auto