New Grower 4 plant mephisto grow NCH, MS, CDLC, DG x 3BOG

[WildBill]

N tox for sure on the big gal.

That's what I was thinking. Thanks for helping me to learn and trust my thoughts.

WTF do you think is up with the yellow monster Sam OG ?

 

[derek420colorado]

That's what I was thinking. Thanks for helping me to learn and trust my thoughts.

WTF do you think is up with the yellow monster Sam OG ?

Man I am thinkin it was locking N out due to a pH issue at first and now all that is sorted that’s why it’s starting to come in green. Now that is something I would damn sure breed with cause it is HEARTY!!!!!!

 

[NoFrillsNoBills]

Yea I got no clue. I'm barely feeding the NCH, she gets like 500 TDS of nutrients now compared to the MS getting 1800 TDS.

That initial start at the beginning when I was watering without fixing the pH clearly had impacts across the board. Just no clue since then. I've done everything from flush, to adjust feedings, it definitely went through a calmag issue due to pH lockout early on.. you can see the old leaves showing those battle scars.

I mean would a moonth old plant honestly want less than 500 TDS a day? Pretty sure i tried to do less and then the new growth started coming in really yellow/green so I bumped the TDS back up and the yellowing went away but the curl doubled down. If it's getting too much nitrogen, then it's getting just the right amount of something else.. and if I give it less nitrogen it's not getting something it wants. yay for learning

 

[derek420colorado]

Yea I got no clue. I'm barely feeding the NCH, she gets like 500 TDS of nutrients now compared to the MS getting 1800 TDS.

That initial start at the beginning when I was watering without fixing the pH clearly had impacts across the board. Just no clue since then. I've done everything from flush, to adjust feedings, it definitely went through a calmag issue due to pH lockout early on.. you can see the old leaves showing those battle scars.

I mean would a moonth old plant honestly want less than 500 TDS a day? Pretty sure i tried to do less and then the new growth started coming in really yellow/green so I bumped the TDS back up and the yellowing went away but the curl doubled down. If it's getting too much nitrogen, then it's getting just the right amount of something else.. and if I give it less nitrogen it's not getting something it wants. yay for learning

This is where dolomite lime has literally saved my life. It allows what I have seen as about a 1 point pH buffer zone. Where it’ll get everything it needs as Long as you are within about a pH point like if you are at 7.4 or 5.4 you are good. Maybe not that low on the bottom end but at least like 5.6 or so. So note to self for next time(because it takes time for the lime to break down) add that into your soil a couple weeks before planting. I haven’t had a pH issues since I started using it. It’s the magic ingredient to soil if you ask me. @pop22 was the one who originally turned me on to the amazing benefits. Maybe he can chime in on this here situation.

 

[derek420colorado]

yes a plant can just be super sensitive to N or anything else really. I’m case you haven’t seen this chart it explains what nutes are available at what different pH. It helps to identify any issues when and if they arise

 

[derek420colorado]

I’m high and forgot to post the pic lol here it is

 

[NoFrillsNoBills]

Measured runoff today and it’s coming out at 6.8-9. I’d quit checking it as chasing that early on seemed to cause me a lot more issues. I just stuck to putting in the same pH daily and the plants seemed to grow steadily after that.
Clearly there are still issues, likely related to various lockouts.

pH in is 6.0. What would cause runoff to go up by nearly an entire point? There is no salt build up I believe as the TDS/ppm runoff is like 200 less than what I’m putting in.

 

[NoFrillsNoBills]

Day 37 for the bigguns. Day 33 for the CDLC. Day 27 for the SamOG

Have had to raise the bigguns light 4" over the last few days. NCH growing lanky and tall. MS growing tall and just absolutely rotund. MS is so dense, I'm not sure what to do with it.

CDLC looks like I've done something bad at some point but don't know what. her eaves are just absolutely FAT. It's impossible for nodes to get light and they just stack on top of each other and push straight out the middle. It's insane. I quit bothering with her and letting her grow however she wants at this point. After topping her, she just went gnarly on me. Probably won't do that again to this strain.

Then ol SamOG. Half still yellowish, other have getting a refreshing green coat. Pistils are every where. She may not yield much, but I think we'll get something, which will be neat regardless.

 

[NoFrillsNoBills]

Growing super fast right now. @derek420colorado when you laughed about those few leaves I commented on growing fast in the beginning... I guess this is the part you were talking about. The NCH is just stretching her legs now and the MS is starting to stick long arms out of that thick bush.

The CDLC is starting to flower now. I definitely stunted the hell out of her I think. Not sure. I finally ended up taking away some of her fat fans and all that undergrowth that was underneath started growing upwards finally.

the samOG smells somewhere between citrus and cat piss. It’s weird. All 4 have distinctive smells at this point.

what a trip so far.

 

[derek420colorado]

Growing super fast right now. @derek420colorado when you laughed about those few leaves I commented on growing fast in the beginning... I guess this is the part you were talking about. The NCH is just stretching her legs now and the MS is starting to stick long arms out of that thick bush.

The CDLC is starting to flower now. I definitely stunted the hell out of her I think. Not sure. I finally ended up taking away some of her fat fans and all that undergrowth that was underneath started growing upwards finally.

the samOG smells somewhere between citrus and cat piss. It’s weird. All 4 have distinctive smells at this point.

what a trip so far.
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I would defoliate that big bush of a beast lol. Not a whole bunch but then again that’s alllllll bush right there. Those inner budsites will thank you. I would do something like start with taking the 5 biggest fan leaves you see off. If it still looks too thick take the next 5.