Indoor 249g of a single automazar -hydro grow

[blackout]

my question is this... what size hps light did you use ??

also what was your nutrient line up ?

This wasn't my grow if thats what you thought. I quoted the start & finish dates from another page,

DP Variety: AutoMazar
Kind: feminized
Country: Ireland
Grow method: non-organic
Medium: hydro
Remarks: sowed 22nd March, Flowered 12th April, Harvested 31st May 2011, Yield 249g.

Ripsters AutoMazar Turned purple and so did the clone..

I stand corrected! and I had seen his thread too, never noticed it.

We call those amazonian autos WG . The super auto is stitches brand. So if you refer to a super auto it would imply that it is from his stock.

Yeah, I would also say superautos are stitch's brand and I doubt he handed it out. Sorry for the confusion, when I said
"I am guessing they have used different genetics, like the superautos, but in this case it is still quick to finish."
I could have said
"I am guessing they have used different genetics other than lowryder, like stitch did, but unlike stitchs 0.1 this is quick to finish."

I am only new to autoflowers so still learning, I had not heard of the amazonians before so will read up more, I was wondering how many ruderalis plants there are that people are crossing with good results -I didn't mean to cause any upset. The automazar stands out due to its yeild claims, the other autos have much lower quotes on the same page.

I suppose it could be different phenos, I see great yeilds here for some of the Mi5 but normal yeilds quoted on the seedcompanies site for it.

 

[Z3RO]

That's an Pretty Impressive Plant right there.
"Amazon/s" is just a title given to Pheno's of superior quality Auto's. As the Amazons were all female warriors that were said to be taller and stronger than most men.
So an Amazon or Amazonian Auto isn't from the region of the Amazon(South America). Its just another Name for "Super" Auto because Stitch exclusively uses the title "super"
Though since he doesn't "own" the term (Super) Auto I say we just start using it as an generalization for An exceptional breed of Auto's. AKA Amazon/s... Or start calling em (A+) Auto's lol...
To answer your ending statement ,I have had huge success with Canadian Ruder X Kush's and Russian to other Indica's. If you are doing a "hot" strain like Peru Red or Afg Kush, I'd suggest sourcing Mexican Ruder. Its a lot harder to find but WELL worth it if you do. They tend to get a little taller and lean more of a Sativa build than the Canadian or Russian. They also tend to have higher THC than the other two. The Climate and Eq position makes it easy for any South American and some Sub tropical like mainland Thai Crosses.
Lastly great yields depend on many factors but skill of the grower is the #1. Nutrients, soil, water, light, and heat also affects the performance greatly. A guy growing soil indoors with a t5 is never gonna beat a hydro grower with Co2 and a HID. (I don't really like HPS, Auto's and most Photo's actually like MH more. Yea you don't get that stretch as much for height but the weight I have found is greater on bushes and its taste is superior VS HPS, but to each his own) But a guy with soil knowledge and a HID will keep up if not outshine the Hydro grower do to skill. Plus Soil will always taste better ^^....js...
Good genetics though makes a 150% increase or decrease in quality and yield. I have seen noobs keep up with my bagseed grows (Random Genetics) kickin the same weight and sometimes same quality just because of the Genetics. Good genetics will carry even the Nooooobiest Noob through with shining colors. But not even a grand master can make a unstable 0.5 Oz Auto look good...

 

[seymour-buds]

cheers for clearing that up

my own personal take on this,

dutch passion have used their own mazar and crossed it with a lowryder a few times in order to get the autoflowering trait, dutch passion do produce quality regualr strains and as you can see from this auto mazar the gentics have been carried over into the autoflower

you only have to look at dutch passions delahaze grows to see that 15oz per plant is pretty much standard

 

[NC420]

No upset bro, This is what AFN is here for...

Cheers:thumbs:

 

[Mossy]

Buds...let us put this to bed FOREVER tonight...

The JEM has been Ripped..for definite..twice.

That is the way things happen in this world.

Life isn't Fair....:no:

But..

it is only worth getting Mad over things you can change..

otherwise...anger is poison for the Soul.

So..From tonight..the argument JEM/MAZAR is Dead...

Future...not past.

JEM can get big...SIMPLE...big pot..big plant...ALL AUTOS

Outdoor ..under less than 10 HOURS NATURAL LIGHT..

And..the JD JEM's produce a White dominance...


But..AFN have our Own ORIGINAL JEM....on sale.

Argument..FINISHED.



Thanks Everyone..for the Support......:ama:

 

[seymour-buds]

are you suggesting that dutch passion have ripped off the jem and have renamed it ?

i would love to see a side by side grow of dutch passions auto mazar and the jem + a smoke test to see if there is any difference

i just cannot see a reputable seed bank like dutch passion doing that, i know it happens but look at barneys farm pineapple express they used their own pineapple chunk and turned it into an auto

reputable seed banks wanna piece of the action in the auto world and they will do it by introducing their own strains and not ripping off someone elses work and thats why they have the unique strains

another thing that makes me think its dutch passions own creation is the fact the seeds are feminized where if they were ripping off another seed producer they would of done an open pollination and produced regular seeds

just my opinion mate but unless some one does a side by side grow and a smoke test we will never know for definate

 

[Northern Grower]

DP stops by this website. I've had emails from them. So why don't they come clear it up.

Mossy JEM was the first auto mazar. So call it what you want, that's all we are saying. If you know breeding you wouldn't wan't to go back to LR to start your auto mazar. You want some thing close to the strain your working. Which is why i said yeah they could have BX to their own mazar with an already auto mazar. It makes no sense to breed with the one thing everyone is breeding away from.

i just cannot see a reputable seed bank like dutch passion doing that, i know it happens but look at barneys farm pineapple express they used their own pineapple chunk and turned it into an auto

People said the same thing when they brought out their non-auto autos.. They had to pull them to get re worked...

It happens..... period. It makes no difference anyhow, if anything i'd just like people to know what they are growing.

BTW. You can make fem seeds from plants grown out from a pack of regular seeds. They made fems because it's what is in demand over in europe. Most people don't want to select out males.

I wouldn't make your decision based on the fact they sell fems.. You can get fem auto mazar from flash too.. What mazar did they use?

Out of the millions of strains just so happens everyone is crawling over each other to get that auto mazar out?



I am not saying don't buy it.. By all means buy it grow it.. It'll be some dank! i know the lines.. I just want you to know what you are growing,

 

[seymour-buds]

yeah fair comment so was the original jem created using a dutch passions mazar if so this is 1 crazy circle lol

it could be a case of what came first the chicken or the egg

 

[Northern Grower]

this is 1 crazy circle lol

It is.. I wish they had a more descriptive read up on theirs.. It would make them look so good if they said it was a BX to their own mazar clone mom or some thing like that.. I tend to buy the seeds i can find as much legit info on. I am just one person, But i know a few others who are the same.


If i had the time i'd do a side by side and put it to rest in my own mind.. But i can't afford the space on it.

 

[Z3RO]

Yea Dutch Passion does really good jobs with pretty Much anything they do. I use them and G13 Labs a lot.
But as far as the A.Mazar goes there is no telling where they got it from. Who knows could even be worked from the ground up. I do that with many strains I create.
I think I have few Flash A.Mazars... think I'll grab some DP and AFN's version. grow all 3 out and see whats up. Prob do 4 of each to make it a fair run. Average out weight, height, growth, and of course potency. Looks like DP's is the white Pheno though.