New Grower 1st grow. Outdoor Organic. Advice.

I tried 1 tbsp 3% peroxide to 1 cup water and mist it on the mulch to drench a few times and it seems to have eliminated the gnats.
I just saw a couple whiter hairs. Does this mean it is in pre-flower stage.? She is actually in her 4th week. Should
I discontinue LST here? It’s not very big.
I’ll add pics in a while.

Thanks.
 
I tried 1 tbsp 3% peroxide to 1 cup water and mist it on the mulch to drench a few times and it seems to have eliminated the gnats.
I just saw a couple whiter hairs. Does this mean it is in pre-flower stage.? She is actually in her 4th week. Should
I discontinue LST here? It’s not very big.
I’ll add pics in a while.

Thanks.

yup, soundz like preflower is indeed imminent :biggrin: to continue lst or not is totally up to u, but i personally still have all their branchez tied down all over the place, lol, and it def helpz with light/airflow :thumbsup:

ok, picz plz...:smoking: ppp
 
Couple pics from 3 days ago. the closer one is the bottom branch. Its about 2 in long. I was wondering about the LST. I thought there was a certian point at which you should stop LST. When it begins flowering? Seems small but looking at other journals they seem to take off around week 4-5. I'm hoping it starts to blow up soon.
 

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I have a couple new pics. Looks like this thing was stunted by the heat. It is only like 12-16 in tall and is in its 4th week. I also have two others(hindu Kush, 2nd NL) that were started a week later and put outside then I have a cheese auto that is all inside and it is much bigger than the outdoor plants.
Lesson Learned: don't but seedlings outside in July & august heat.
 

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They look fine mate. Nice colour of green. They will stretch. Chill bro!.

If you can tie em down further to the rim and open the plant up whilst you can.
 
@jumper114 thanks. I really don’t know what to expect. I was just basing it the growth of the indoor. But it is a much different plant also, with such shorter internodes.
Yea chill is the hard part. Little OCD. Past gardening experience helps.
Is there a certain time when to stop LST? Time? Growth? ?
 
@jumper114 thanks. I really don’t know what to expect. I was just basing it the growth of the indoor. But it is a much different plant also, with such shorter internodes.
Yea chill is the hard part. Little OCD. Past gardening experience helps.
Is there a certain time when to stop LST? Time? Growth? ?

I continue to train till about 1 week after stretch has finished. Keep ensuring the bud sites are very open and away from each other, as below, day 5. You can just make out the yellow pipe cleaner levelling off the canopy. Each stem is trained. There must be 40-50 heads :-

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@jumper114 that plant looks great. I'm thinking that plant was probably not this small. The main stem is around 14".
Cool. Continuing LST.

There are some tiny flowers up on the stem under the main growth. Is this part of the cola or will they be seperate bud sites?
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I let it go for a couple days with no stress and its reaching.
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Today is weekly feeding day. For this I make a version of Garrett Juice. <begin rabbit trail> If you want to know soil biology take a look at the Dirt Doctor Howard Garrett for praticle ways to improve soil biology and grow living soil. I don't know much but I do know there is a symbiotic relationship between the plant at the root level and the microbes in the soil. When the plant needs a nutrient it excreets a sugar and a carbohydrate, sort of a cake, that a certian microbe has. The microbe eats the cake and leaves the nutrient. This requires the soil to be alive. That's how I grow my garden with relative success? <end rabbit trail>
Last night I made Compost tea - 4 gals water with 3 garden trowel size scoops of compost with 10 tbsp molasses and bubbler.
Then this am I added 7 tbsp Fish emulsion, 7 tbsp seaweed and 6 tbsp apple cider vinegar . Folier feed and give everone .5 gal. soil drench.very little run off. so most was soaked up.
I believe the soil I am using needs less compost. I'll see when they are harvested I hope. now it is 45% coco, 45% compost, 10 % vermiculite, 1 cup root starter. It holds the moisture for 7+ days. On the probe meter it stays above the dry/moist line for the first 3-4in then goes to moist - moist/wet the further you go down.. I am guessing that since they are small they are not drinking much I'm hoping no anerobic activity starts in at the bottom. On the other hand the soil shold be very alive and I am hoping there are worms down there and lots of aerobic activity. The soil mix I used had compost with worms in it. I potted the soil in 5 gal fabric pots, covered it with straw, watered it in with homemade Garret Juice to give it a kick start and planted into it 2-3 days later. I am hoping they just get a steady stream of nutrients from the compost through out the cycle I do plan on using some Dr Earth bud&bloom booster (3-9-4) in the weekly feeding. I guess that should start when it goes from pre-flower to flower?

back to the show
So I did some light LST. on NL#1
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I also trimmed like three of the original leaves that were turning yellow and spotty from lack of sun, I am guessing. And I trimmed any leaves that had caterpillar damage. I found a little tiny baby one and sprayed with neem. the following day there was some more damage so I hit them with BT. Today no more damage. I'm not sure if the neem took two days to be effective or the BT is what did the trick. I use BT on my kale for cabbage loopers (those damn little white moths are everywhere. The pest on the girls is from a smaller brown moth. i've seen them around but they are harder to spot.

These bud sites are in close to the stem, will they branch out or become part of the main cola?
The LST I did was mainly to expose these to light.

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What are these right at the node base?
They had white hairs now turning brown. I also saw a couple other hairs on small floer sites with brown tips.
Is that a sign of entering a differnt stage of life?
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And while I was trimming I was having a hard time finding the base of the leaf and got impatient and clipped a branch.@#$%
8 bud sites
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7 bud sites
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That is my longest update but so much is going on. Thanks for all the help and inspiration.

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So the outdoor NL is still alive and kicking. While growth seems slow, I am attributing that to heat stress. temp 94+ rh 75%+. It seems to be ok with the compost tea feeding on Sat. No apparent burn. I think.. I also saw continuing caterpillar leaf damage. We are under attack. I did another BT treatment last night. 2nd in 3 days. I tried 1 round of neem the day prior but have seen the success of BT on caterpillars, so going strong with that. No new damage this morning. A little more LST just laying down the main stem. It looks like it is a good position to grow out, cooler weather expected next week.

Some Pics:
top flower pre-LST
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Post LST

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Caterpillar damage
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Busted

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Comments and suggestions welcome.

thanks
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