Photoperiod 12/12 from seed??

[Dr.Bubbles]

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[Dr.Bubbles]

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Anyone start seeds at 50/50? Anyone? I believe this gentleman needs some assistance.

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[CoviklaFlaire]

@pop22 I was aiming more on how to integrate that 2 week flip in the veg time..
,So I'm exploring how to get plant in flower after 30days with most vigour possible...

I dont know who is Adnim.but can I copy/paste text from another forum?? Dude made sticky claiming that he has great results with 12/12, he said trick is to water them very light so that root search for the water and for that roots are bigger and girls are bigger too,and for that you use max 11l pots.. so if I can get 2oz per plant, I can easly put 9 girls in 11l pots in my 1m2 tent.. That is killer yield,at least for me

 

[pop22]

Give it a try then, its the only way to know. I'm skeptical and curious to see results.

@pop22 I was aiming more on how to integrate that 2 week flip in the veg time..
,So I'm exploring how to get plant in flower after 30days with most vigour possible...

I dont know who is Adnim.but can I copy/paste text from another forum?? Dude made sticky claiming that he has great results with 12/12, he said trick is to water them very light so that root search for the water and for that roots are bigger and girls are bigger too,and for that you use max 11l pots.. so if I can get 2oz per plant, I can easly put 9 girls in 11l pots in my 1m2 tent.. That is killer yield,at least for me

 

[CoviklaFlaire]

I will try it @pop22 ,but biggest prlblem is that I can use my room for about month or two.. After that I dont have place to grow .



12/12 from seed guide by Lil rasta

Ok so im writing this to help out anyone who wants to or does grow 12/12 from seed. You can use this method of growing to try new strains, pick good mums or dads, have 2 oz of many strains instead of 18 of 1.

Ok so my first point is with this style of growing the plants will flower when they reach a certain age, not size or anything else. So with this in mind you normally have 3-4 weeks to grow the biggest plant you can, every now and again you get a 5 or 6 weeker these end up being huge.

There are a few things that you can do to get the biggest plant you can in that short time:

DONT pot up, start them in between 6.5-11L pots any more is a waste and I have seen no noticable yield difference between the 2 sizes often my highest yielder is in the smaller pot. advantage for bigger pot though is watering every other day instead of every day. But I also like watering every day as i can change my feeds very fast to resolve any problems.

Use a good soil mix with perlite and some bat guana if you can, root castings and seaweed would go a miss but I normally dont bother. When i add the guana i add half the amount around 3" from the bottom of the pot then mix the other half in with the soil that goes on top, that way the roots go down toward the bottom normally so when the tap root does that it will hit gold and sread out around this very fast.

DONT overwater your plant, the major reason most growers pot up. When the plant is young it will drink fuck all, so after you have watered it in then leave it for around a week (this will vary depending on many things in your room) but let the pot dry right out before they get watered again and then they will explode with growth. This works as the plant will use alot of its energy to makes roots in the first week or 2, so make it search for water and gets its roots all around the pot then when you water it next it can take up so much food.

Get your light close, fuck this give little ones less lumens, all they need is not to fry. Do the back of the hand test, if you feel any heat from the bulb move it up 2" above the tops of the seedlings and they will grow into it. Just keep them away from any heat for 2 weeks but as close as you can to the light without them getting any heat. DONT put the bulb 2 ft away and let them grow into it as then you will end up with 1ft plants, i have done this to test the age or size theory to see why or how they flower.

I normally do 9 differnt strains under a 400w and aim for 2oz a plant. This way i have a nice selection to smoke every 100 days and any keepers get cloned when they get lollipopped. There is no need to train your plants if growing this way, other than maybe lst, but suppercropping and topping majorly hurt your yield as the plant doesnt have the time to recover before flowering and again ends up being really small. If done right 12/12 plants normally end up around 3-4 foot although in my last diary i have a 6ft beast.

Try and run a humidity of between 60-80% when they are vegging as this makes the fan leaves much larger as they cant transpire water as well but as they get bigger they take in more energy as a result.

Get a fan blowing them from day one to make them root faster and make a hardier stem, this will save you alot of string being used to hold branches, although some will still have to be used as the plants havent vegged for long and therefore dont have very thick stems. That being said ive has stems as fat as my finger with no veg.

The usual things also apply like dont overwater your plants as it will majorly stall them.
Have a very good air flow as it aids plant growth.
Keep your room pest free.
remove any leaves over 50% damaged.
Make sure your day/night temp swing is under 5C for b est results but the closer the better. This minamalises strech in your plants.

I cant think of anything else now but 12/12 growing is a great method for all growers, simple yet effective. You can aim for 1-1.5gpw if this method of growing is done right. My gpw is always better if i do this methods with a 400 than a 600w. The 600w is normally nearer the 1 and the 400 nearer the 1.5

Hope this helps someone

 

[SUNDOG]

give it a go dude, I do it now and then. works well if you run a SOG setup. some strains work better then others. pot size: 1-3 gals your going to get sticks of bud, easy to run perpetual that way too.
if you google it you should find some journals out there. if you do it post some pics up. ill probably run some 12/12 from seed some time this winter/spring.

 

[NastyN8t]

I've heard ak47 is a good Photo strain to run 12/12 from seed.they finish fast and potent.

I've run autos 12/12 from seed w photos. They out preformed the photos with a few weeks of veg so I switched to autos.
I'd get some fast pheno autoflower and run lights 24/0. Even if they are a Lil bit early on chop it will most likely be better than trying to cram a photo grow into the time span

 

[CoviklaFlaire]

I current have trouble with growing space but I would like to try 12/12 from seed.. I have 7 SBA fem. photo..So if I go another photo. grow it will be 12/22 from seed..

 

[NastyN8t]

Have you considered going microgrow w photos? Like in a PC or big speaker box?

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[CoviklaFlaire]

Have you considered going microgrow w photos? Like in a PC or big speaker box?

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Wtf Would I do that? If I cant grow properly I wont grow.. Well If TanG survived not hrowing I think I will too, somehow..