Photo Question

@Mañ'O'Green also im growing in soil, not hydro. will that affect growth rate enough that i should wait till they hit 16 inches? or just flip at week 2 regardless?

I've actually had one of my top 3 harvests running seeds from 12/12. I was going to stop growing so I popped all the seeds I had and put them under 12/12 and gave them hell with the nutes. Ended up with 17oz dry from 5 plants under a 600 HPS/MH. They will "veg" until they sex then go right in to flower. Nothing really to worry about. Good luck

Tmonney said:

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man those are monsters! so if two weeks pass and they are only at 10 inches flip them anyway? i was running the lights 24 hours for the first 3 days i just set my timer to 16/8 today, do i need to change them to 18/6? also, how tall do your photos usually get by flipping them using this method? i only have five feet vertically which has to also include the height of the containers. i was only shooting for a week 5 flip because im not using fem seeds and thats about the time they show sex.

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They will not show sex until 7 -10 days after the flip you can veg photos for months if you wanted to. 16/8 18/6 potato potado wont make a huge difference.

I did not follow my own rule and you see where it got me. Now the two plants on the right were flipped at about two weeks and I think they will be less than 60 inches which is what I shoot for. Theoretically your plants may be limited by the pot size - that did not work for me since these are growing in 6 inch cubes?

Super Cropping
Hardest thing for a new grower to do emotionally and physically is to super crop a plant to keep it out of the lights. The problem is many new growers as well as all of us end up in that situation indoors sooner or later. Have some grafting PARAIN TAPE on hand just in case. 6" lower than you think you should, roll the stem crushing the inside 3 x the diameter of the stem in length between your forefinger and your thumb, then bend the branch over at that pinch. Bend to 90° from the stem or horizontal to the light. If you did not get a good enough interior crush the stem can break usually just on the top. If this happens just wrap with the grafting tape and all will be well. You may need to tie down the bent over top as many branches just lift themselves right back up. A great lesson to teach yourself on your first harvest or any harvest for that matter is to practice super cropping on branches you have harvested. You will get a good feel for what it is to crush and bend without the dread of "Killing a Cola".

Mañ'O'Green said:

They will not show sex until 7 -10 days after the flip you can veg photos for months if you wanted to. 16/8 18/6 potato potado wont make a huge difference.

I did not follow my own rule and you see where it got me. Now the two plants on the right were flipped at about two weeks and I think they will be less than 60 inches which is what I shoot for. Theoretically your plants may be limited by the pot size - that did not work for me since these are growing in 6 inch cubes?

Super Cropping
Hardest thing for a new grower to do emotionally and physically is to super crop a plant to keep it out of the lights. The problem is many new growers as well as all of us end up in that situation indoors sooner or later. Have some grafting PARAIN TAPE on hand just in case. 6" lower than you think you should, roll the stem crushing the inside 3 x the diameter of the stem in length between your forefinger and your thumb, then bend the branch over at that pinch. Bend to 90° from the stem or horizontal to the light. If you did not get a good enough interior crush the stem can break usually just on the top. If this happens just wrap with the grafting tape and all will be well. You may need to tie down the bent over top as many branches just lift themselves right back up. A great lesson to teach yourself on your first harvest or any harvest for that matter is to practice super cropping on branches you have harvested. You will get a good feel for what it is to crush and bend without the dread of "Killing a Cola".

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Isn't the root structure different in Rockwool different than what you might see in soil?

damien50 said:

Isn't the root structure different in Rockwool different than what you might see in soil?

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I would describe it as root bound yet the rock fibers still allow air and nutrients to pass through. The thing is I have grown Photos (I don't think autos existed) in my living soil in the past and they got too tall also. That is when I made my rule - I should just follow it .

Mañ'O'Green said:

They will not show sex until 7 -10 days after the flip you can veg photos for months if you wanted to. 16/8 18/6 potato potado wont make a huge difference.

I did not follow my own rule and you see where it got me. Now the two plants on the right were flipped at about two weeks and I think they will be less than 60 inches which is what I shoot for. Theoretically your plants may be limited by the pot size - that did not work for me since these are growing in 6 inch cubes?

Super Cropping
Hardest thing for a new grower to do emotionally and physically is to super crop a plant to keep it out of the lights. The problem is many new growers as well as all of us end up in that situation indoors sooner or later. Have some grafting PARAIN TAPE on hand just in case. 6" lower than you think you should, roll the stem crushing the inside 3 x the diameter of the stem in length between your forefinger and your thumb, then bend the branch over at that pinch. Bend to 90° from the stem or horizontal to the light. If you did not get a good enough interior crush the stem can break usually just on the top. If this happens just wrap with the grafting tape and all will be well. You may need to tie down the bent over top as many branches just lift themselves right back up. A great lesson to teach yourself on your first harvest or any harvest for that matter is to practice super cropping on branches you have harvested. You will get a good feel for what it is to crush and bend without the dread of "Killing a Cola".

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iv'e broken branches before and used the fabric type medical tape to hold it together (it was all i had on hand) but the plant was just fine afterwards. it grew a big ass lump where it was broke looked almost like a tumor lol but it was ok. and i have veg'ed photos in the past for as much as 3 months, when i say they show their sex around week 5 i dont mean the grow full on pollen sacks or pre-flowers, i mean between the nodes you can notice tiny little shapes, before a pollen sac develops, a roundish shape will start to form, in the case of females they will look like super tiny leafs, but if you look at it with a magnifying glass sometimes you can even see what looks like a single hair coming in between the tiny leafs. these are super tiny, and nearly if not impossible to see with the naked eye. i wish i could explain it better. maybe i can find a way to take a picture of this later on in my grow. thanks for the advice and guidance ill definitely keep the updates to my journal coming.

Mañ'O'Green said:

They will not show sex until 7 -10 days after the flip you can veg photos for months if you wanted to. 16/8 18/6 potato potado wont make a huge difference.

I did not follow my own rule and you see where it got me. Now the two plants on the right were flipped at about two weeks and I think they will be less than 60 inches which is what I shoot for. Theoretically your plants may be limited by the pot size - that did not work for me since these are growing in 6 inch cubes?

Super Cropping
Hardest thing for a new grower to do emotionally and physically is to super crop a plant to keep it out of the lights. The problem is many new growers as well as all of us end up in that situation indoors sooner or later. Have some grafting PARAIN TAPE on hand just in case. 6" lower than you think you should, roll the stem crushing the inside 3 x the diameter of the stem in length between your forefinger and your thumb, then bend the branch over at that pinch. Bend to 90° from the stem or horizontal to the light. If you did not get a good enough interior crush the stem can break usually just on the top. If this happens just wrap with the grafting tape and all will be well. You may need to tie down the bent over top as many branches just lift themselves right back up. A great lesson to teach yourself on your first harvest or any harvest for that matter is to practice super cropping on branches you have harvested. You will get a good feel for what it is to crush and bend without the dread of "Killing a Cola".

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where do you get paraffin tape? can you just get it from a local hardware store or is it something i would have to pick up online? if i can get it at lowes that would be awesome because i have store credit and i was planning on picking up some liquid kelp and neem oil there anyway.

They should have it. It is called grafting tape (generic).