Autoflower Kindbud tries to grow RBF

[Jpkindbud]

So, this will be my first grow this year… just dropped 3 of JeanO’s RBF s3 autos in a shottie with spring water and a couple drops of H2O2 and set on the cable box.

I’m trying an organic multi plant pot… i mixed HP organic from Walmart with humus/ manure and worm castings topped with just the HP organic (yellow bag) roughly a half bag each of the humus and WC . This mix was watered and has been “cooking” in an 80F tent for about a month so far, I figured it’s about time. I’ll have pics tomorrow when I plant the seeds.
Also, this will be my first real time with a soak and plant to final pot. Stay tuned.

Disclaimer, the attempted grows of fall and early winter were a bust… l will blame it on SAD. Seasonal depression… i just gotta get back on the horse sometime and it just feels right.

P.S. many thanks to @Jean-O for the prize beans for the 2024 OD comp. Hope I do them proud!

 

[Jpkindbud]

So, this is what the scenario looks like. I planted the three after around a 20hr soak. No tails showing yet but planted them between 1/2 -3/4 “ deep and misted the spots down, covered with clear pint cups… actually may be 20 oz soda cups.

Also, this will be my first grow with the phlizon grow light i won in the drawing, late 2024. It’s the 1000w fixture. Temp on inkbird controller is set at 80F and adjusted the sensor to the top of the pot. That’s all for now folks! Just gotta keep them moist and fingers crossed… hope the soil is warm enough. Did I mention the top layer is unamended? Top 3-4” i believe. Just so the young-uns don’t get shocked when they emerge…

 

[Waira]

- RBF baby! Have you grown or smoked her before? She hits with both hands, and the aroma is a delight -
If I recall rightly, she can get sizable so your multi-pot will be a handful JP', be prepared to do some pretty aggressive nip&tuck and nute amending along the way...
I do a similar near-water-only thing, and the main concern with this in smaller pots or with large/multi' plants is how fast they suck down the in-pot nutrients. The strategy is to try and keep pace, if not ahead, with supp' nutes along the way. At first it won't be a prob, and hopefully the crowding will help keep sizes down a bit, but the hitch is the nute drain can happen rather suddenly so watch them closely for early fan fading, etc....

Since they are auto's, I'd recommend using a bloom fert' for supp' feeding, not a grow type because you don't want a lot of N hanging around as they transition into bloom... I like Roots Terp Tea bloom as it's a complete fert' with good ratio's of NPK, and it's very finely ground so it waters in nicely and breaks down fast -
There's a variety of other such products out there too like Dr. Earth Flower Girl, GreenGro/Pridelands Flower Finisher,... point is to keep some light, proper ratio NKP going in.

And as this is an organic run, your soil herd is king, so regular dosing of a inoculant is really important... I also strongly recommend a humic-fulvic product (BioAg has a great dry product, Ful-Humic, 100g bag is pretty cheap and lasts for years); it's a proper carbon source for the herd and it chelates like nothing else! Lots of other benefits too (article in Reference section in the Infirmary)...
Other essentials: a Si product, kelp, and butt covering micronute and Ca supp's... -- I say butt covering because I use the micronutes all along, weekly to prevent any sideways shit going down with deficiencies, ditto for Ca which is super important at transition and during flowering. The kelp will help with micro's too BTW...

BioAg has products that are amino-based, a nice plus, for both micro's and Ca: Micro-Amino, Ca-Amino... If you feel like really spoiling them, their Ful-Power liquid fulvic as a foliar spray is tops, especially with kelp + Si added in!
I like TPS Silica Gold for it's mixed form sourcing, better than plain old Potassium salt based stuff...
Recharge inoculant is a great product, nice value plus it has kelp, humic-fulvic and molasses in it as well...

A solid read is the APTUS grow bible, download as a PDF, for general info... This graph is one of my favs, says a lot in one pic! It shows relative demands at different stages-->

It shows why bombing the f' out of the plants with high PK late in the game is pointless, even detrimental especially when using mineral based nutes... The good flower finishers have little to no N, relatively low P, and higher K ratios... some extra Sulfur at the last few weeks is something I'm going to tinker with this year, via gypsum, as it's key in terpene production.... I found a small size bag at Amazon, for mushroom growers, cheap too- LOL --instead of a 25lb bag of it!

Anyway, pardon the info bomb, I got going and had to make it reasonably complete - ...and since you mentioned some wonky stuff going down the last couple runs, I wanted to help with tips for doing grows this way. It's sounds simpler, and generally is, but proper prep and products are still key in this style of growing...
I know I spent a fair bit of your money on all this stuff, but upside is most will last for years and having stuff on-hand is critical when hiccups pop up. You know organics, stuff takes more time to get broken down into available forms so treating for issues isn't as direct speedy as it is for mineral salt type stuff.
Oh yeah, a water wetter/surfactant, like yucca extract or Coco-Wet is also super handy, and critical for any foliar applications. Some foliar love with fulvic+kelp+Si goes a long preventative way to smooth trouble-free growing!
...kelp, I'm trying GreenLeaf brand's powdered stuff and liking it plenty. Less $, and since its dry, it doesn't go bad as fast as liquid stuff...

 

[Jpkindbud]

- RBF baby! Have you grown or smoked her before? She hits with both hands, and the aroma is a delight -
If I recall rightly, she can get sizable so your multi-pot will be a handful JP', be prepared to do some pretty aggressive nip&tuck and nute amending along the way...
I do a similar near-water-only thing, and the main concern with this in smaller pots or with large/multi' plants is how fast they suck down the in-pot nutrients. The strategy is to try and keep pace, if not ahead, with supp' nutes along the way. At first it won't be a prob, and hopefully the crowding will help keep sizes down a bit, but the hitch is the nute drain can happen rather suddenly so watch them closely for early fan fading, etc....

Since they are auto's, I'd recommend using a bloom fert' for supp' feeding, not a grow type because you don't want a lot of N hanging around as they transition into bloom... I like Roots Terp Tea bloom as it's a complete fert' with good ratio's of NPK, and it's very finely ground so it waters in nicely and breaks down fast -
There's a variety of other such products out there too like Dr. Earth Flower Girl, GreenGro/Pridelands Flower Finisher,... point is to keep some light, proper ratio NKP going in.

And as this is an organic run, your soil herd is king, so regular dosing of a inoculant is really important... I also strongly recommend a humic-fulvic product (BioAg has a great dry product, Ful-Humic, 100g bag is pretty cheap and lasts for years); it's a proper carbon source for the herd and it chelates like nothing else! Lots of other benefits too (article in Reference section in the Infirmary)...
Other essentials: a Si product, kelp, and butt covering micronute and Ca supp's... -- I say butt covering because I use the micronutes all along, weekly to prevent any sideways shit going down with deficiencies, ditto for Ca which is super important at transition and during flowering. The kelp will help with micro's too BTW...

BioAg has products that are amino-based, a nice plus, for both micro's and Ca: Micro-Amino, Ca-Amino... If you feel like really spoiling them, their Ful-Power liquid fulvic as a foliar spray is tops, especially with kelp + Si added in!
I like TPS Silica Gold for it's mixed form sourcing, better than plain old Potassium salt based stuff...
Recharge inoculant is a great product, nice value plus it has kelp, humic-fulvic and molasses in it as well...

A solid read is the APTUS grow bible, download as a PDF, for general info... This graph is one of my favs, says a lot in one pic! It shows relative demands at different stages-->
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It shows why bombing the f' out of the plants with high PK late in the game is pointless, even detrimental especially when using mineral based nutes... The good flower finishers have little to no N, relatively low P, and higher K ratios... some extra Sulfur at the last few weeks is something I'm going to tinker with this year, via gypsum, as it's key in terpene production.... I found a small size bag at Amazon, for mushroom growers, cheap too- LOL --instead of a 25lb bag of it!

Anyway, pardon the info bomb, I got going and had to make it reasonably complete - ...and since you mentioned some wonky stuff going down the last couple runs, I wanted to help with tips for doing grows this way. It's sounds simpler, and generally is, but proper prep and products are still key in this style of growing...
I know I spent a fair bit of your money on all this stuff, but upside is most will last for years and having stuff on-hand is critical when hiccups pop up. You know organics, stuff takes more time to get broken down into available forms so treating for issues isn't as direct speedy as it is for mineral salt type stuff.
Oh yeah, a water wetter/surfactant, like yucca extract or Coco-Wet is also super handy, and critical for any foliar applications. Some foliar love with fulvic+kelp+Si goes a long preventative way to smooth trouble-free growing!
...kelp, I'm trying GreenLeaf brand's powdered stuff and liking it plenty. Less $, and since its dry, it doesn't go bad as fast as liquid stuff...

Omg, thank you for the info bomb! I was thinking that the organics in the “soil” would prob be just about ready to spread their goodness. And I do have dr earth, think it is flower girl. I will prob slowly accumulate them as needed cuz I’d like to turn that big pot to a no till. Might take awhile and definitely longer to get it to the proper levels of nutes. Thinking I’ll have to get some worm tubs going eventually. But definite thanks on the info!

 

[Jpkindbud]

Omg, thank you for the info bomb! I was thinking that the organics in the “soil” would prob be just about ready to spread their goodness. And I do have dr earth, think it is flower girl. I will prob slowly accumulate them as needed cuz I’d like to turn that big pot to a no till. Might take awhile and definitely longer to get it to the proper levels of nutes. Thinking I’ll have to get some worm tubs going eventually. But definite thanks on the info!

Also, never grown or smoked RBF but there’s been a lot of talk about it on here with rave reviews! This is the S3 version, don’t know how much variation from the original of jeano’s RBF

 

[Jpkindbud]

Update- I’ll get pics tomorrow but 2 of 3 are above soil! Frikkin awesome!

 

[Waira]

JP, what exactly is HP organic? I was thinking it was a sort of "super" soil, but my now sober eyes see that it may not be- LOL... Even with EWC and poop, it won't cover the full spectrum of nutes needed and in enough richness to be a near-water-only gig. EWC is great, but it isn't what would considered nutrient loaded. Manure is largely N, and nuthin' else...
I dunno if this was what you were planning, or if it was just a straight forward organic based grow. What I had in mind was similar to what I do with KIS Organics nute pack amendment and nice bag soil: mix, cook a bit and use the supp's as needed. The goal being no more fussing with pH, ppm's, mixing several things up and then having to tinker more later as plants start to mature at different rates and all that...

What I said still stands, but if it's not that kind of rich soil, you'll need to get on the nutes/supp's sooner. If you have the Flower Girl, you can bag some up and crush it into fine grade stuff like Terp Tea Bloom is,..speed and ease it's penetration and breakdown into the soil and root zone...

 

[Entombed]

Yo @Waira ! Another incredible read, thank you. Can you elaborate a little on something you said up top?

The foliar fulvic+kelp+Si

What are you mixing up? If you don't mind sharing.

 

[Jpkindbud]

Sorry, it’s promix organic garden soil

And all the children are awake and above soil.
Last one up has a little color issue, but I expect that to change for the better.

 

[Jpkindbud]

So, I contacted promix for ratios… under measurable amounts. So I think waira is spot on that I’ll have to build my soil and amend as I go.