Hey Dr. ,this thread will give ya everything ya need for a QWET or ETOH extract..etoh is short for ethanol..qwet is quick wash ethanol..if ya need more info let me know @Dr. Babnik
EtOH is very polar. Don't you get much contamination?
So you do qwet, not chilled EtOH extraction with 30 min in freezer?

Another question.
After a BHO blast, I dissolved the oil I couldn't reach with the scraper. When the solvent was gone, I eas left with some hard substance, like a piece of black hash. Have you seen anything like that? I can provide a pic.
 
EtOH is very polar. Don't you get much contamination?
So you do qwet, not chilled EtOH extraction with 30 min in freezer?

Another question.
After a BHO blast, I dissolved the oil I couldn't reach with the scraper. When the solvent was gone, I eas left with some hard substance, like a piece of black hash. Have you seen anything like that? I can provide a pic.
The QWET process does require chilling the material...if its kept cold and worked fast,the contam is minimal...only occasionally run bho,but then i rinse with eth and purge,never seen what u are talking about but post a pic and maybe we can figue it out..peace
 
The first question is why use a quick wash technique to extract the resins, instead of long soaks to extract as much resin as possible, or just boiling the material in alcohol to get the greatest amount of extracted material?

The answer to that is that because alcohol is a polar solvent that is soluble in water, the latter two techniques also extract the water solubles like chlorophyll and plant alkaloids, as well as the plant waxes and vegetable oil.

Perhaps the first question is why use a BHO technique to extract the resins, instead of just boiling the material in alcohol to get the greatest amount of extracted material?

The answer to that is that because butane is relatively non polar, it doesn’t extract the water solubles like chlorophyll and plant alkaloids. Butane produces one of the cleanest extractions, albeit typically at a lower yield than polar alcohol.

Hi @archie gemmill ..these are a couple excerpts from Skunk Pharm Research their homepage can be found pretty easily online and will explain all the stuff i cant, I use their methods to extract because they are proven,not with just the Eth but with the BHO and iso,CO2,Hexane,... look em up its good info..I still occasionally do bho and iso pulls, each is its own animal with pros and cons,finding what works for you is a great thing cause its exciting learning the processes as long as safety is exercised first and foremost... Hope this helps...Cheers:hippy:
I think a good run with lots of butane extracts all cannabinoids an terpens.
I wanted to control smoke the plant matter after extraction, but changed my mind when the mateial only smelled of dry gras. No smell of marijuana what so ever.

The problem with EtOH is, as you say, and isopropyl alcohol it the polarity. The polarity indexes are 4.3 and 4.0, respectively. The same values for hexane is 0.1 and butane is in the samme range.

So I would like to hear arguments for using EtOH rather than butane. Butane is safe, if you follow the safety rules. And I am paranoid with my safety when surrounded by explosive gas.
 
The QWET process does require chilling the material...if its kept cold and worked fast,the contam is minimal...only occasionally run bho,but then i rinse with eth and purge,never seen what u are talking about but post a pic and maybe we can figue it out..peace
Have a look, Sir.

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I think a good run with lots of butane extracts all cannabinoids an terpens.
I wanted to control smoke the plant matter after extraction, but changed my mind when the mateial only smelled of dry gras. No smell of marijuana what so ever.

The problem with EtOH is, as you say, and isopropyl alcohol it the polarity. The polarity indexes are 4.3 and 4.0, respectively. The same values for hexane is 0.1 and butane is in the samme range.

So I would like to hear arguments for using EtOH rather than butane. Butane is safe, if you follow the safety rules. And I am paranoid with my safety when surrounded by explosive gas.
No arguments here,bho is quicker to make but unless you have a vac oven to purge,youll never get the butane out.you still should freeze/chill the material and the can of butane.the supercritcal fluid process will/should give a better return.i still do it occasionally but it takes forever with a light heat to purge it to a good flavor,and im sure it still has contam in it...eth is where i find my happy place..i have all the tools and material to run a batch in a few hours( if i wanna push it),ive done it enough that i am familiar with most of the variables and i get a good return...i got stuck in morning safety so this didnt post immediately
 
Ive never had bho come out that dark..if you have chilled/frozen the material before the process that would cure the chlorophyll pickup( if there was a chance to pickup any) .another possibility is if you used a grinder to prep the material,it prolly has a lot of impurities/fines that made it thru the filter.another possibility is if you heat purged it,the heat may have been too high..i dont know the entire process u used so its hard to say..post a rundown and we can start eliminating the possibilities..
 
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Actually heres a better idea for all @Dr. Babnik ,lets move this discussion over to the bho thread for site safety..plus theres more folks over there that can chime in...ill meet you there
 
The QWET process does require chilling the material...if its kept cold and worked fast,the contam is minimal...only occasionally run bho,but then i rinse with eth and purge,never seen what u are talking about but post a pic and maybe we can figue it out..peace
Chatting with @tripaholic88. He says the hard stuff is the good stuff, coz its purified with EtOH.
 
Actually heres a better idea for all @Dr. Babnik ,lets move this discussion over to the bho thread for site safety..plus theres more folks over there that can chime in...ill meet you there
Yeah...let's do.
Should I take the pic away?
 
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