hey oldguy glad to hear it worked out for ya now was this hash from the dry sift full melt?
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OldGuy
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I used dry trim and undeveloped bud. I threw some dry ice into the bottom of a 1 gallon bucket. Then put 2 or 3 handfuls of trim on top of the ice. Placed a 120 micron bubble bag over the bucket an shook the hell out of it over a sheet of glass.
What does the finished "hash" look like ?
And where is the best place to acuire ethanol?
I like your method below...:thumbs:
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bgrt
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id guess itd be an oil, thick as you make it by reducing the amount of ethanol(alcohol)
high proof liquor or medical grade maybe not sure.
high proof liquor or medical grade maybe not sure.
Just saw the question....
As far as ethanol - I distill my own; cheap, easy, and you have plenty of leftovers to drink. The initial cost to build the still is somewhat high, but its another hobby for me. If you don't want to go that route, just buy the highest proof alcohol from the store - some places have 190 proof, and some only have 151. Just start shopping around.
The finished hash looks like an amber nugget. I keep waiting to see a prehistoric mosquito deep inside the finished product.
Also - I take the frozen scrapings and place them into a normal sized shot glass, then let it sit someplace confortably warm for a few hours. This allows everything to blend together into one nugget. Then place the shot glass in the freezer for a few hours, and then the nugget will shrink slightly and pop right out of the glass. When frozen, its hard as glass. As it warms up, it will get a little soft, just enough for you to cut off a piece and enjoy. Procede slowly at this point, as its potent as hell. A little goes a very long way.
As far as ethanol - I distill my own; cheap, easy, and you have plenty of leftovers to drink. The initial cost to build the still is somewhat high, but its another hobby for me. If you don't want to go that route, just buy the highest proof alcohol from the store - some places have 190 proof, and some only have 151. Just start shopping around.
The finished hash looks like an amber nugget. I keep waiting to see a prehistoric mosquito deep inside the finished product.
Also - I take the frozen scrapings and place them into a normal sized shot glass, then let it sit someplace confortably warm for a few hours. This allows everything to blend together into one nugget. Then place the shot glass in the freezer for a few hours, and then the nugget will shrink slightly and pop right out of the glass. When frozen, its hard as glass. As it warms up, it will get a little soft, just enough for you to cut off a piece and enjoy. Procede slowly at this point, as its potent as hell. A little goes a very long way.
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bgrt
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just about to try my hand at this tonight with some 180 proof booze.
that jurassic nugget sounds amazing.
do the amounts of alcohol to bud make a difference.. or just more time evaporating?
that jurassic nugget sounds amazing.
do the amounts of alcohol to bud make a difference.. or just more time evaporating?
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CanadianBudz
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Sandle hash, sift trimmings to get kief, put it into cellophane and put that under your foot and walk around for a few hours, the heat and pressure makes your hash 
The more alcohol you use the longer it takes to evaporate, but it is proportional to the amount of plant material you are using. I fill up a quart mason jar with dried cured buds and trim ( I remove the fan leaves and stems) and use a quart of alcohol so I match equal volumes as a rule of thumb. This alcohol volume takes about 5 days to evaporate in a dark closet with no air movement @ 74F.
A decent sized plant will fill an entire jar - say four ounces or so. I only break it up by hand and slightly tap it all in with about 1/2" or so of head space. Freeze both jars, and then just pour one into the other, and follow the directions from there on out.
This time around, I took some cured Barneys Farm Tangerine Dream and de-car'b it in the oven (~245F for 15min). Make sure its nice outside so you can open windows; BTW - Stinks up the whole house. It made one quart of moonshine hash oil which is evaporating now. My goal is to make some decarb'd hash and mix in some coconut oil (or similar) to make some canna caps. I know TBM has a recipe somewhere I just need to find it. I just don't know how to titrate the finished hash into the oil for dosing........anyone else done this before? Just thought I'd try something new.
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Kpex, not sure what kind of recipe TBM has to add but I saved this information a while back that i found on another forum for the day i make my canna capsules. This info did not come from my own personal experience but is a very well written run down of the process... It may help you and others out here in understanding how to properly make the canna capsules. I'm highly allergic to coconut so i won't be using that oil but the alternatives that can be used are Avocado - Almond - and -Castor- oils, in addition to the coconut, at an
unmeasured rate of just a few drops each, per 2 teaspoons of coconut oil. Just make sure they are food grade.
I'm reading that adding soy lecithin is cheap, easy to find, and it absolutely enhances the effects and absorption of cannabinoids.
Soy Lecithin. It's used in food processing to make less sugar appear 'sweeter', less chocolate more 'chocolatey', and in pharmaceuticals to enhance the effectiveness of medications, it homogenizes and safely coats, then breaks down substances, into more fine, smaller particulates, promoting vastly improved systemic bioavailability within your body.
The difference is so great, that you can visually see the altered consistency between oils/pills where lecithin was used, and when it was not. 'Liposomal' lecithin encapsulation, simply put, breaks the glands down faster, making the heating process more efficient, reducing the risk of damaging the material from possible over-processing. I recommend using soy lecithin in all canna and hash oil recipes.
The glands, already being decarbed (preferably), are then broken down further, and are delivered in a vehicle of lecithin oil, creating an intensely narcotic impact upon use. Lecithin increases the availability of everything from sugars to vitamin C, to prescription pain meds, and the increase in availability on contact is said to be between %15 and %75 depending on the substance, vitamin, or chemical. Meaning, the correct addition of lecithin to for instance, vitamin C, reduces the quantity of ascorbic acid you need to consume in order to achieve the same effect, by more than 50%. You can see how this applies to the use of digestive-resistant canna in edibles.
Kapex, since you're using coconut oil i'll post this info about it that might be helpful to you and others reading...
Coconut oil is a solid at temperatures below around 76-78 degrees, making it perfect for canna capsules. When blended properly, the cannabinoids are mixed evenly through the oil and become unable to 'eat' through the gel cap, and due to the solidity of the oil they can be stored safely for up to several weeks at room temp. I prefer freezing mine as it not only greatly extends their shelf life, but there are many studies and recipes that suggest a freezing action, as a step of the process, as it enhances the molecular break-down of the cannabinoids making them more readily available to your body.
Decarbing is a touchy issue for many folks, some know they need it but don't know the methods and practices that cause decarbing, some aren't aware of it at all, others think it's unnecessary and 'know' they get some amount of effect from eating bud on its own, here's why: some herb, if it's old, commercial, over-dry, whatever the reason, for a variety of reasons, some herb is already partially, or even full decarbed. The process begins happening, very gradually, the moment you cut a plant down and begin depriving it of water. The older the bud is, and the drier it gets, the more carbon dioxide and water vapor is released, and the closer it is to removing the carboxyl group. It's something that is almost never discussed publicly, but is frequently known in professional kitchens. The fresher the herb, or the more moist the storage conditions, the more necessary and extensive the decarbing process needs to be. Loose hash, separated from plant matter, in general needs a bit less decarbing. With herb, depending on the age, I decarb for a full 20 minutes after the preheat, rather than including that warm up in my 20 minute time frame.
to decarb: Preheat oven, to 210 f. Sprinkle your hash evenly over the dish, and double seal WELL, with aluminum foil. Set a timer for 20 minutes, place the sealed dish on a baking sheet, in the oven, during pre-heat.. it isn't entirely necessary, but heating slowly reduces the risk of shattering your dish, and losing your precious material.The same applies to the end of the heating, turn off the oven, open it briefly, then close it and allow it to cool slowly within the oven for 10 minutes. Total decarb time, 30 minutes (20 of which, the oven is ‘on’).
A food dehydrator works just as well, if not better than heat at decarbing, it reduces the risk of damaging your product with excessive heat. It's hard to tell when your decarb is completed when using heat, usually gently browned herb is a good sign but it often means you've taken it a hair too far, and some material in the middle may not be completely decarbed.
what you need to get started on your capsules:
- Ceramic oven-safe dish
- hash, or sifted kief (min 5.0 grams if using sifted kief for every 2.5 tsp of coconut oil used)
- Foil
- Empty Pill Bottles (to store capsules)
- Pippet (to fill your capsules easily by hand
- size 00 GELATIN capsules.. they must be gelatin, if you use vegetarian, they'll disintegrate before you can use them. But if you must use V caps, you'll have to take them almost immediately, and I'd recommend making your hash concentrate in advance, freezing it, and defrosting what you need, as you need it, just enough to fill a days supply of caps. You can use larger capsules, and fill them with different ratios, but only if you can handle swallowing pills that large; many folks have difficulties with even the 00's, although they're your average health-food sized cap.
You’re ready to add your coconut oil, but you’ll need to melt it first. Be careful doing so as some containers have foil seals restricting microwave use, the safest ways of melting your oil are just sitting it in front of a heater, or placing the entire (glass) container in your oven, without its lid, at its lowest setting for a few moments.
Besides that it’s good for you, coconut oil (unless you're allergic like me lol) is a solid at room temperature, making it an ideal tool for hash encapsulation. If you use a liquid oil, it’s not just the oil that eats away at the capsule in a matter of days or weeks, it’s the concentrated hash and cannabinoids, that can eat away at the pill in a matter of hours =-O You can try to freeze them, but often it isn’t done quick enough and you end up with ‘sloppy’ capsules.
Mix your oily hash well, and then seal it up tightly with two layers of aluminum foil. Wrapping in foil, during all heating stages, prevents possible vaporization of your valuable potency.
Now place your covered dish on a baking sheet, and into the oven. Immediately reduce the heat down to 220 f, and set the timer for 40 minutes. The initial burst of heat is primarily to quickly heat the dish itself, by the time the oil itself begins warming up the temperature should have fallen sufficiently.
After 40 minutes, shut off your oven, open it momentarily, then close it allowing your oil to slowly cool. do this to gently increase processing time, and as a preventative safety measure against the dish breaking from the temperature change, spoiling the product.
Once completely cooled, or only warm to the touch (about a half hour) you can remove the foil, and stir in an additional 1/8 of a teaspoon of lecithin.
If you are particularly meticulous about everything you do, or if you would like to use the capsules as soon as you have finished making them, this is when I recommend taking the extra step of freezing your material, to aid in the ‘breaking up’ of the structure of your cannabinoids, which can increase their systemic bioavailability. Place your sealed container in the freezer for 8 hours. I like freezing between periods of heat because it results in a smoother liquid. Otherwise, you can simply freeze them once capped.
Moving on : ) After you’ve mixed in your lecithin (or after you’ve removed your dish from the freezer, and have given it ample time to reach room-temp) you will re-wrap it tightly in foil, pre-heat your oven to 220 f, and place it inside during the pre-heat (particularly if you’ve had it frozen, and only recently thawed), and set your timer for 40 minutes.
After allowing it to cool as described earlier, you should have something like a dank, thick, viscous black-brown oil. It is exactly how a potent canna oil should look at its peak potency, any less or lighter, indicates it could have endured more processing to reach its potential.
I make both meticulous, and lazy-mans edibles, and there is a hugely profound
Take your cap in your hand, wrapped in a paper towel. I do this because, my fingers are a bit warm, and when you add even gentle heat to a capsule, just as you are attempting to seal it, the pressure fights with you and tries to ‘pop’ the cap off the end of your capsule resulting in a less-than-snug seal. Holding it in a folded bit of paper towel, insulates it just enough to prevent this.
Now with your other hand, stir the oil gently with your pipette, as you first pinch, then allow it to fill. Conveniently I have pipettes that measure in ml’s, each 00 cap holds just under 1ml. One tablespoon of material, will fill roughly 15 caps.
Kpex - hope this run down is what you were looking for
unmeasured rate of just a few drops each, per 2 teaspoons of coconut oil. Just make sure they are food grade.
I'm reading that adding soy lecithin is cheap, easy to find, and it absolutely enhances the effects and absorption of cannabinoids.
Soy Lecithin. It's used in food processing to make less sugar appear 'sweeter', less chocolate more 'chocolatey', and in pharmaceuticals to enhance the effectiveness of medications, it homogenizes and safely coats, then breaks down substances, into more fine, smaller particulates, promoting vastly improved systemic bioavailability within your body.
The difference is so great, that you can visually see the altered consistency between oils/pills where lecithin was used, and when it was not. 'Liposomal' lecithin encapsulation, simply put, breaks the glands down faster, making the heating process more efficient, reducing the risk of damaging the material from possible over-processing. I recommend using soy lecithin in all canna and hash oil recipes.
The glands, already being decarbed (preferably), are then broken down further, and are delivered in a vehicle of lecithin oil, creating an intensely narcotic impact upon use. Lecithin increases the availability of everything from sugars to vitamin C, to prescription pain meds, and the increase in availability on contact is said to be between %15 and %75 depending on the substance, vitamin, or chemical. Meaning, the correct addition of lecithin to for instance, vitamin C, reduces the quantity of ascorbic acid you need to consume in order to achieve the same effect, by more than 50%. You can see how this applies to the use of digestive-resistant canna in edibles.
Kapex, since you're using coconut oil i'll post this info about it that might be helpful to you and others reading...
Coconut oil is a solid at temperatures below around 76-78 degrees, making it perfect for canna capsules. When blended properly, the cannabinoids are mixed evenly through the oil and become unable to 'eat' through the gel cap, and due to the solidity of the oil they can be stored safely for up to several weeks at room temp. I prefer freezing mine as it not only greatly extends their shelf life, but there are many studies and recipes that suggest a freezing action, as a step of the process, as it enhances the molecular break-down of the cannabinoids making them more readily available to your body.
Decarbing is a touchy issue for many folks, some know they need it but don't know the methods and practices that cause decarbing, some aren't aware of it at all, others think it's unnecessary and 'know' they get some amount of effect from eating bud on its own, here's why: some herb, if it's old, commercial, over-dry, whatever the reason, for a variety of reasons, some herb is already partially, or even full decarbed. The process begins happening, very gradually, the moment you cut a plant down and begin depriving it of water. The older the bud is, and the drier it gets, the more carbon dioxide and water vapor is released, and the closer it is to removing the carboxyl group. It's something that is almost never discussed publicly, but is frequently known in professional kitchens. The fresher the herb, or the more moist the storage conditions, the more necessary and extensive the decarbing process needs to be. Loose hash, separated from plant matter, in general needs a bit less decarbing. With herb, depending on the age, I decarb for a full 20 minutes after the preheat, rather than including that warm up in my 20 minute time frame.
to decarb: Preheat oven, to 210 f. Sprinkle your hash evenly over the dish, and double seal WELL, with aluminum foil. Set a timer for 20 minutes, place the sealed dish on a baking sheet, in the oven, during pre-heat.. it isn't entirely necessary, but heating slowly reduces the risk of shattering your dish, and losing your precious material.The same applies to the end of the heating, turn off the oven, open it briefly, then close it and allow it to cool slowly within the oven for 10 minutes. Total decarb time, 30 minutes (20 of which, the oven is ‘on’).
A food dehydrator works just as well, if not better than heat at decarbing, it reduces the risk of damaging your product with excessive heat. It's hard to tell when your decarb is completed when using heat, usually gently browned herb is a good sign but it often means you've taken it a hair too far, and some material in the middle may not be completely decarbed.
what you need to get started on your capsules:
- Ceramic oven-safe dish
- hash, or sifted kief (min 5.0 grams if using sifted kief for every 2.5 tsp of coconut oil used)
- Foil
- Empty Pill Bottles (to store capsules)
- Pippet (to fill your capsules easily by hand
- size 00 GELATIN capsules.. they must be gelatin, if you use vegetarian, they'll disintegrate before you can use them. But if you must use V caps, you'll have to take them almost immediately, and I'd recommend making your hash concentrate in advance, freezing it, and defrosting what you need, as you need it, just enough to fill a days supply of caps. You can use larger capsules, and fill them with different ratios, but only if you can handle swallowing pills that large; many folks have difficulties with even the 00's, although they're your average health-food sized cap.
You’re ready to add your coconut oil, but you’ll need to melt it first. Be careful doing so as some containers have foil seals restricting microwave use, the safest ways of melting your oil are just sitting it in front of a heater, or placing the entire (glass) container in your oven, without its lid, at its lowest setting for a few moments.
Besides that it’s good for you, coconut oil (unless you're allergic like me lol) is a solid at room temperature, making it an ideal tool for hash encapsulation. If you use a liquid oil, it’s not just the oil that eats away at the capsule in a matter of days or weeks, it’s the concentrated hash and cannabinoids, that can eat away at the pill in a matter of hours =-O You can try to freeze them, but often it isn’t done quick enough and you end up with ‘sloppy’ capsules.
Mix your oily hash well, and then seal it up tightly with two layers of aluminum foil. Wrapping in foil, during all heating stages, prevents possible vaporization of your valuable potency.
Now place your covered dish on a baking sheet, and into the oven. Immediately reduce the heat down to 220 f, and set the timer for 40 minutes. The initial burst of heat is primarily to quickly heat the dish itself, by the time the oil itself begins warming up the temperature should have fallen sufficiently.
After 40 minutes, shut off your oven, open it momentarily, then close it allowing your oil to slowly cool. do this to gently increase processing time, and as a preventative safety measure against the dish breaking from the temperature change, spoiling the product.
Once completely cooled, or only warm to the touch (about a half hour) you can remove the foil, and stir in an additional 1/8 of a teaspoon of lecithin.
If you are particularly meticulous about everything you do, or if you would like to use the capsules as soon as you have finished making them, this is when I recommend taking the extra step of freezing your material, to aid in the ‘breaking up’ of the structure of your cannabinoids, which can increase their systemic bioavailability. Place your sealed container in the freezer for 8 hours. I like freezing between periods of heat because it results in a smoother liquid. Otherwise, you can simply freeze them once capped.
Moving on : ) After you’ve mixed in your lecithin (or after you’ve removed your dish from the freezer, and have given it ample time to reach room-temp) you will re-wrap it tightly in foil, pre-heat your oven to 220 f, and place it inside during the pre-heat (particularly if you’ve had it frozen, and only recently thawed), and set your timer for 40 minutes.
After allowing it to cool as described earlier, you should have something like a dank, thick, viscous black-brown oil. It is exactly how a potent canna oil should look at its peak potency, any less or lighter, indicates it could have endured more processing to reach its potential.
I make both meticulous, and lazy-mans edibles, and there is a hugely profound
Take your cap in your hand, wrapped in a paper towel. I do this because, my fingers are a bit warm, and when you add even gentle heat to a capsule, just as you are attempting to seal it, the pressure fights with you and tries to ‘pop’ the cap off the end of your capsule resulting in a less-than-snug seal. Holding it in a folded bit of paper towel, insulates it just enough to prevent this.
Now with your other hand, stir the oil gently with your pipette, as you first pinch, then allow it to fill. Conveniently I have pipettes that measure in ml’s, each 00 cap holds just under 1ml. One tablespoon of material, will fill roughly 15 caps.
Kpex - hope this run down is what you were looking for
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