Hi @trailanimal !

I was originally planning on doing that last year, but time was not enough to prepare.
But, actually, this is a really good thought for this time around, as I have more time.

Maybe... how about this idea: I do an in-ground site or two for the photo plants?
That could let them really do their thing, and grow nice and big.

I know a couple of good spots, quite a bit further from me (about 1 hr hike) in the mountains.
I thought about digging them out, and dropping in coco blocks to wait for the rains.
Then add in a bunch of organic nutrients to them once the rains expand them out.
Then just check on them every couple of weeks or so...........

Thanks for the reminder on this one!

Love and hugs,
MJS
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sounds good MJS. Further away good and be more work. Leaf mold(decomposing leaves) from on or near site would be good for soil. When I'm starting from scratch that's what I use untill I can make compost. If there is a creek bottom close at hand you can probably find some nice humusy silt. When scratching for leaf mold under bushes use the stuff under surface leaves next to soil, give it the smell test. Schrounging on site could save significant backpacking. As 912 pointed out, check PH
 
"I was mainly thinking this after last year's very bad start
-- almost all the seeds germed, but then never popped above ground."

If they get out of the gate with no problems are you going to be able to keep up with potentially large plants?

"Maybe I have a light hand, because my transplants seldom if ever have any problems."
The "problem" with autos I find is finding the perfect timing for a transplant. I too have had success but too early(shifting dirt from not enough roots), or too late(root restriction) and the autos wont be optimal. Root restriction has a big impact on final size I have found with autos(check the dragon meds for my thread with some recent examples of stunted plants form root restriction). Check my guide and have another look at the insta transplant pots. Work well and simple to make. I was able to run my autoultimate maximus in 6"X6" X8" deep insta-transplant pots for 24 days and she grew up to be a champ 9 oz plant.

I'm going to have to transplant at some point.
That's because up to day 20 they're going to move a bit between under the LED and on the balcony.
So, don't want to have to move 10 or so 2+ Gal pots around several times a day.
I have a nice tray that I can fit maybe 8+ 1 L pots in, so just pick up the whole tray and move it.
And also if they have problems when small, I don't need to have a large pot to deal with.

Totally understand...my starting cabinet is small and I need to do the same. I found above to work well.


According to the climate / weather stats, all the way from March through June is about 80%+.
Sounds very bad, but... didn't have any mold issues last year even during monsoon!!!!
(The only problem was harvesting when still wet,
but I already have a solution for that if it comes down to it.
Key point is, I'm harvesting before monsoon.)

You must get lucky on strain choice!! Damn I had 70%rh and dealt with mold on 3 of 4 auto strains I did last season.

While the strains I picked are all possible monster plants,
because it's a guerilla grow and most of the time light hours are 12-13.5 hr / day,
I think that they'll stay relatively small(ish).
So, huge genetics in this situation should still lead to okay results.
That's my thinking.......

I grow in two locations...one I get full sun and the plants are massive. The second location I call the "test garden". This location only gets 8 hours of sun and tapers down to less than 6 by harvest. I dig 4'X4' holes for each plant(photos) about 2 feet deep. Despite the limited sun they get pretty big, my record for location was last year with a 20+ foot outer perimeter almost 5 feet tall fruity chronic juice by delicious seeds which pulled me 21oz.

LST or Fimming or Topping....????
This is also a good question, but may wait until they get going.
Maybe some nice LST work, as I've been practicing on my mint plants!
Top / Fim some and leave the rest, making a learning comparison

OH ice storm...power flicker...got to run...will finish later
 
Thanks @tripaholic88 !!

What is your take on coco and the Ca-Mg issue? and the K issue?
(I.e. the idea that coco needs more Ca-Mg and less K.)

And have you ever used silica / water crystals with coco?
I'm guessing not for indoors (no need!)

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well about the calmag and K... by what i understand from what wairia told me is once the coco has absorbed all the calmag it can it then in turn dumps alot of K into your substrate. but yes it does require added calmag in coco. i ran coco and LED's haha calmag hogs in coco!and yes i use silica (Advanced Nutrients Rhino Skin) and love it... branches are as stiff as coat hangers and can hold up them heavy buds:vibe:
 
LST or Fimming or Topping....????
This is also a good question, but may wait until they get going.
Maybe some nice LST work, as I've been practicing on my mint plants!
Top / Fim some and leave the rest, making a learning comparison

I am all about topping with lst for sure on the photos...I only do light LST on the autos to minimize canopy shading and maximize bud exposure. Also do light selective defoliations as well.

Your spot by the stream sounds amazing!! Great call on the leaf compost @trailanimal ! I have grown some of my biggest best guerilla plants in hardwood leaf compost. One thing to look when selecting a spot is look for healthy plants. Chances are if the local fauna is unhealthy, there almost certainly wont be enough nutrients to support canna.
 
Did you get any jar hygrometers yet? ;)

Can you do a short form list of what you think went well and what went wrong last season? I know the drying part and wather was a struggle for you. I check out your grow again as a recap, but its 32 pages long and I have dial-up internet...lol. :D
How secure is your spot...could you get away with dew shields...they might now stand up agains the worst weather but they would give the plants some protection.
 
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Did you get any jar hygrometers yet? ;)

Can you do a short form list of what you think went well and what went wrong last season? I know the drying part and wather was a struggle for you. I check out your grow again as a recap, but its 32 pages long and I have dial-up internet...lol. :D
How secure is your spot...could you get away with dew shields...they might now stand up agains the worst weather but they would give the plants some protection.

One very important difference is the season.
Last year was in the middle of monsoon season, late summer / fall,
good sunshine hours but also massive rainfall and hurricane winds.
This time it is in the dry season, spring to early / mid summer,
less sunshine hours but average rainfall and normal winds.
This "average" rainfall is the same as most places,
it'll keep them alive but needs some kind of human watering.
So, that's why use coco for water retention, plus the water crystals.

Apart from the insane monsoon weather,
the big problem last time was a stupid mistake that won't happen again,
that caused the main stems to go down. Won't happen again.
I will put in some nice heavy wire supporting sticks from the start this time.
And will prob LST / fim / top to keep down the height,
and probably thicken the stems.
But with no crazy winds, this won't be a big deal anyway.
 
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"I was mainly thinking this after last year's very bad start
-- almost all the seeds germed, but then never popped above ground."

If they get out of the gate with no problems are you going to be able to keep up with potentially large plants?

I'm thinking that because they'll be outside under a rather cloud sky,
and with only 13hr light per day, and in 2+ Gal = 10 L pots,
they won't get super massive anyway.

Heavy yield genetics + not ideal circumstances = average yield.

"Maybe I have a light hand, because my transplants seldom if ever have any problems."
The "problem" with autos I find is finding the perfect timing for a transplant. I too have had success but too early(shifting dirt from not enough roots), or too late(root restriction) and the autos wont be optimal. Root restriction has a big impact on final size I have found with autos(check the dragon meds for my thread with some recent examples of stunted plants form root restriction). Check my guide and have another look at the insta transplant pots. Work well and simple to make. I was able to run my autoultimate maximus in 6"X6" X8" deep insta-transplant pots for 24 days and she grew up to be a champ 9 oz plant.

I think I've got a handle on the right time to transplant.
You're right -- between not enough roots where the soil falls apart,
and already root bound, it's a happy medium point.
As above, things won't be ideal,
but I'm not aiming for 100g/ plant yield.
Even an oz per plant will be more than expected!

I'm going to have to transplant at some point.
That's because up to day 20 they're going to move a bit between under the LED and on the balcony.
So, don't want to have to move 10 or so 2+ Gal pots around several times a day.
I have a nice tray that I can fit maybe 8+ 1 L pots in, so just pick up the whole tray and move it.
And also if they have problems when small, I don't need to have a large pot to deal with.

Totally understand...my starting cabinet is small and I need to do the same. I found above to work well.

Yeah, just last time's indoor to outdoor process,
but with the LED I hope that they can grow a bit better when young,
because outside they'll get less good quality light than the last batch in Aug.

According to the climate / weather stats, all the way from March through June is about 80%+.
Sounds very bad, but... didn't have any mold issues last year even during monsoon!!!!
(The only problem was harvesting when still wet,
but I already have a solution for that if it comes down to it.
Key point is, I'm harvesting before monsoon.)

You must get lucky on strain choice!! Damn I had 70%rh and dealt with mold on 3 of 4 auto strains I did last season.

The buds don't get that huge in the first place.
Plus, I'm sure I'm no where near your cool / cold temps here.

While the strains I picked are all possible monster plants,
because it's a guerilla grow and most of the time light hours are 12-13.5 hr / day,
I think that they'll stay relatively small(ish).
So, huge genetics in this situation should still lead to okay results.
That's my thinking.......

I grow in two locations...one I get full sun and the plants are massive. The second location I call the "test garden". This location only gets 8 hours of sun and tapers down to less than 6 by harvest. I dig 4'X4' holes for each plant(photos) about 2 feet deep. Despite the limited sun they get pretty big, my record for location was last year with a 20+ foot outer perimeter almost 5 feet tall fruity chronic juice by delicious seeds which pulled me 21oz.

I've been reading your garden description.
But you have a cultivated garden,
I'm in smallish pots guerilla style.
4'x4'x2' = ... 280 Liters!
I'm doing about 10 L. Hahahaha!!!!
You get 21 oz, maybe I'll get 1 oz!

LST or Fimming or Topping....????
This is also a good question, but may wait until they get going.
Maybe some nice LST work, as I've been practicing on my mint plants!
Top / Fim some and leave the rest, making a learning comparison

OH ice storm...power flicker...got to run...will finish later

Ice storm. We don't get ice here on the coldest day of the century.

Thanks as every, gro bro @912GreenSkell !
Still have a few weeks to prepare before germination!!!!

Love and hugs,
MJS
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