Dutch Passion Think Different and AutoBlueberry under Mars II 700 LED

Once I get a few more grows under my belt, I want to start learning about the teas, and cooking my own soil. You're like a mad scientists over there, but I a good for weed growing way!

Mad scientist is what it feels like when I brew up some microbes, haha. If you're interested in teas and soil, be sure to pick up a copy of Teaming with Microbes. That book seriously opened my eyes to just how incredible the soil ecosystem is. It changed my whole perspective on the matter.

But I don't have a microscope or anything to verify that my teas are indeed "optimally alive." It's much like brewing Kombucha or other fermenting or brewing ventures. You just get the general guidelines, learn what it's supposed to look/smell like, then start experimenting with your recipe and technique. So far, my plants seem to love my brews, and that's good enough for me.

Also! All-In-One compost tea mixes can make simple work of brewing great teas. I've only ever tried Boogie Brew, but I love it. It has an incredible ingredient list. I learned a good bit about organic soil amendments just by researching the ingredients on their label.
 
Mad scientist is what it feels like when I brew up some microbes, haha. If you're interested in teas and soil, be sure to pick up a copy of Teaming with Microbes. That book seriously opened my eyes to just how incredible the soil ecosystem is. It changed my whole perspective on the matter.

But I don't have a microscope or anything to verify that my teas are indeed "optimally alive." It's much like brewing Kombucha or other fermenting or brewing ventures. You just get the general guidelines, learn what it's supposed to look/smell like, then start experimenting with your recipe and technique. So far, my plants seem to love my brews, and that's good enough for me.

Also! All-In-One compost tea mixes can make simple work of brewing great teas. I've only ever tried Boogie Brew, but I love it. It has an incredible ingredient list. I learned a good bit about organic soil amendments just by researching the ingredients on their label.

Thanks for that info, Doc. I heard the book Tru Living Organics is another good book to read. I actually have that one in my Kindle library, and plan to start in on it sometime in the near future, but Teaming With Microbes will definitely go on my to buy list. So, I can buy ready made compost teas? How do they work, as far as feeding goes? Do they replace the nutes, or do they supplement them? If we use them, do we have to be wary of burn or over feeding?
 
Does anyone know why I cant view the photos?? I'm logged in but when I clink on a photo I get a 'dont have permission to view' message! Drivin me nuts!!!!

Hey hope2grow, I think I found a work-around for that problem. If you right-click the picture, or ctrl+click on Mac, you should get a few options. Select "Open in new tab." The image should load up in that new tab, full size. Not very convenient, but it's working for me as I had the same issue. I think it has something to do with the way Tapatalk uploads pictures.

Tapatalk makes uploading pictures really simple if you use your smartphone as your camera, but it's not very reliable. It's frustrating to me that I can upload 5 or so pictures, and most of them don't even show up in the app. They DO appear on the website version, but for whatever reason, random pictures don't show up in the app.

:dunno:
 
So, I can buy ready made compost teas? How do they work, as far as feeding goes? Do they replace the nutes, or do they supplement them? If we use them, do we have to be wary of burn or over feeding?

It's not "ready made" as in already brewed liquid tea or anything. All my research says NOT to buy liquid teas. A tea is supposed to be alive, so sitting on a shelf for months isn't what we're looking for.

Basically it's a dry mix of a bunch of ingredients. It's mostly really good compost and earthworm castings. From my understanding, it's the compost and EWC that provide an array of dormant microbial life, as well as carbon, other elements/minerals, and humic acids. Then there's a ton of other ingredients such as rock dust for a complete array of minerals, kelp and alfalfa meals for plant growth regulators like auxins and cytokines, etc. Finally, there's some sugar crystals in the mix to feed the microbes and allow them to reproduce. There's more good stuff in there, too.

So then you just follow the instructions on the package. You'll need some sort of brewing vessel with a strong air pump and diffusers/air stones. Their instructions call for a 5 gallon bucket, but I don't need that much. I brew in a 1 gallon pitcher. Just maintain temperature (~70F) and let it bubble anywhere from 4-24 hours. The sugary water wakes the dormant microbes up and they get to work eating the compost and other ingredients and start reproducing. Eventually, there will be a huge head of foam on the brew which is apparently a result of the microbial activity. Whenever you decide to finish the brew, you gotta use it immediately, as it's full of life and needs lots of oxygen.

Boogie Brew says you can use it straight without ever burning(assuming you used their recipe ratio, 1 cup dry mix to 5 gallons water). For soil drenching, they recommend diluting it 1:10 if you are already using other fertilizers, or 1:2 once/twice weekly as a "stand-alone tea." Interestingly, they caution against using liquid fertilizers on the label and advise to use half or less of the nutrients you'd normally use. I think this is because the tea enables your plant much easier access to what's in your soil.

As far as replacing or supplementing nutes... They give a few different scenarios on their label.

For soilless/hydroponic growing using liquid fertilizers, they say to use 1:10, and to cut back on other nutrients, "700ppm max!"

For those who grow in rich soil and occasionally top-dress, "feed half-strength tea once or twice weekly. No liquid fertilizers!"

You can also foliar spray it at 1:5.


I imagine if you're looking at it from the NPK perspective, it probably has a good amount of P in it as rock phosphate is one of the ingredients. I think of it like a probiotic for plants. It has a collection of "good" soil microbes, that will compete with the "bad" ones. So it'll inoculate your growing medium with life that will form a symbiosis with your plant. More than that, the microbes eat a lot of the good stuff in the dry mix and contain it within their cells in easy-to-absorb forms. So even if your soil has plenty of life, those excess microbes in the tea that can't get a foothold will get slaughtered by the resident microbes, unleashing tons of readily available materials and energy. At least, that's my humble understanding of what's going on...
 
Does anyone know why I cant view the photos?? I'm logged in but when I clink on a photo I get a 'dont have permission to view' message! Drivin me nuts!!!!

Dr.F those plants look great from the tiny photos that I can see.. i have 2 TD about 25 days old and coming on well.. I think.. so hopefully wont be long til they look like yours Woops

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Nice plants Dr Frog! Have you had any Cal Mg issues?
 
Nice plants Dr Frog! Have you had any Cal Mg issues?

Not at all. I read from others' journals that GO CaMg+ is on the weak side, so I've always given it a little extra. Growing with LEDs made me worry a little about Ca and Mg, but by giving them extra, I seem to have prevented it. My soil also has some oyster shells, which helps with Ca.
 
It's not "ready made" as in already brewed liquid tea or anything. All my research says NOT to buy liquid teas. A tea is supposed to be alive, so sitting on a shelf for months isn't what we're looking for.

Basically it's a dry mix of a bunch of ingredients. It's mostly really good compost and earthworm castings. From my understanding, it's the compost and EWC that provide an array of dormant microbial life, as well as carbon, other elements/minerals, and humic acids. Then there's a ton of other ingredients such as rock dust for a complete array of minerals, kelp and alfalfa meals for plant growth regulators like auxins and cytokines, etc. Finally, there's some sugar crystals in the mix to feed the microbes and allow them to reproduce. There's more good stuff in there, too.

So then you just follow the instructions on the package. You'll need some sort of brewing vessel with a strong air pump and diffusers/air stones. Their instructions call for a 5 gallon bucket, but I don't need that much. I brew in a 1 gallon pitcher. Just maintain temperature (~70F) and let it bubble anywhere from 4-24 hours. The sugary water wakes the dormant microbes up and they get to work eating the compost and other ingredients and start reproducing. Eventually, there will be a huge head of foam on the brew which is apparently a result of the microbial activity. Whenever you decide to finish the brew, you gotta use it immediately, as it's full of life and needs lots of oxygen.

Boogie Brew says you can use it straight without ever burning(assuming you used their recipe ratio, 1 cup dry mix to 5 gallons water). For soil drenching, they recommend diluting it 1:10 if you are already using other fertilizers, or 1:2 once/twice weekly as a "stand-alone tea." Interestingly, they caution against using liquid fertilizers on the label and advise to use half or less of the nutrients you'd normally use. I think this is because the tea enables your plant much easier access to what's in your soil.

As far as replacing or supplementing nutes... They give a few different scenarios on their label.

For soilless/hydroponic growing using liquid fertilizers, they say to use 1:10, and to cut back on other nutrients, "700ppm max!"

For those who grow in rich soil and occasionally top-dress, "feed half-strength tea once or twice weekly. No liquid fertilizers!"

You can also foliar spray it at 1:5.


I imagine if you're looking at it from the NPK perspective, it probably has a good amount of P in it as rock phosphate is one of the ingredients. I think of it like a probiotic for plants. It has a collection of "good" soil microbes, that will compete with the "bad" ones. So it'll inoculate your growing medium with life that will form a symbiosis with your plant. More than that, the microbes eat a lot of the good stuff in the dry mix and contain it within their cells in easy-to-absorb forms. So even if your soil has plenty of life, those excess microbes in the tea that can't get a foothold will get slaughtered by the resident microbes, unleashing tons of readily available materials and energy. At least, that's my humble understanding of what's going on...

Uh, I'd say I got lotsa learnin'to do! Very I interesting stuff, Doc! I can't wait until I am able to immerse myself into learning all about TLO. Cooking my own soils, brewing my own teas... it's all very intriguing stuff that I want to get into so I can one day grow connoisseur worthy buds. Thanks again for all the info!
 
Just a bunch of random pictures from yesterday and today :)

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Harvest Day!

Day 75

Had a few issues throughout this grow, mostly to do with the plants drying out a few times while I was away. Most recently, my plants dried out pretty bad about two weeks ago. They looked really bad, and I lost most of the fan leaves. However, the buds remained totally fine. I think if anything, that dry spell stressed them into making some superb buds! They're dense and sticky all over.

They've only received water for the past 2.5 weeks.




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Still have to chop and hang them to dry, but I've got them mostly trimmed. Smoked some scissor hash, and it's incredible!
 
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