Dutch Passion Think Big and AutoMazar Outdoor Organic Grow (+questions)

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Hi, this is my first Dutch Passion grow so I wanted to share my experience with you guys.

I'm using organic soil (Plagron Royal pH 6.6-6.8) mixed with some coco with Trichoderma (ratio 5:1). Germination was done directly in 20l pots (I made small holes in the middle and filled it with seedling soil). I also used Pythium oligandrum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythium_oligandrum) during germination and on seedlings. I've been using only rain water so far (pH downed with citric acid to 6.2-6.3) because the soil has nutes for at least 6 weeks. I'm planning to add some BioBizz Bloom soon but so far they seem to have enough nutrients.

Plants have been growing fine and they are flowering now. Thing Bigs started to flower very soon (day 28-29) and AutoMazar on day 40. First, I was a bit disappointed with small TB plants because of early flowering (maybe that it was caused by high P/K in the soil - the soil has 1.5-2.0 EC) and also, they've stopped stretching very soon (could be my mistake - read on) but they are looking very good nevertheless. The problem is, I've made LST probably too late (on day 30) which was during flowering and it seems that one plant just completely stopped growing (just finishing buds), while the other one is still slowly growing and making bud sites. I'll show it in some photos.

I don't have my external disk at the moment so I will post my early photos later. Here are some shots I've made right now which is day 47 since germination:

AutoMazar is just amazing. Now I understand why it's so much sought-after strain by a lot of people. Been growing like mad with superb branching. She started to smell just a few days after she sprouted and making stems 2-3 times thicker than Thing Big's. Also, I must add that AutoMazar seems more sensitive to nuts compared to TB. Here she is, flowering for 7 days:
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This Think Big had a very poor branching (I'll show it in my early shots soon) but still kept growing (and started branching fortunately) after I LST'ed her (you can see it on the wire position). Made some new bud sites with a lot of pistils which are all white and there are some cloudy trichomes on main cola (20-30%). Flowering for 18 days:
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Now this one TB is strange. She branched well but something happened. Maybe that she got stressed from LST but she completely stopped to grow after I've bent her (day 30) and just started filling buds to maximum. No new bud sites, just making rockhard indica-type nugs straight from day one:
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I have no idea what's going on. She has a lot of brown pistils, trichomes are 50:50 clear/cloudy with buds screaming "try me". This is just 19 days into flowering! Should I expect some fastest harvest ever or do you think it will continue flowering? I'm a bit confused because this strain should flower for like 8-10 weeks. :]]
 
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Looks like they still have some fattening up to do.
Also looks like you've either under/over watering mazar.
Looking a bit droppy.



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Hi Marty5678, thanks for reply. Seems you're right. Just been checking some buds and there are new flowers with white pistils coming out, especially at the bottom part of the buds. Considering AutoMazar, I think it's all right. I was taking this shots in the evening and she has always droopy leaves like this. It starts in the evening and she keeps it loose over night till dawn. She's been doing it since seedling stage. Seems a genetics thing. Some plants just do this to 'relax' over night.
 
Ok guys, here are some earlier shots I've promised.

Think Big - day 4
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Think Big - day 17
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AutoMazar - day 23
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Think Big - day 23
Notice the branching compared to AutoMazar. Leaves are also very indica-like.
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Now these three are all day 28. First is AutoMazar. You can easily see how good AutoMazar branches. Second is Thing Big with decent branching - just started flowering. The last one is the Thing Big with very poor branching and strange massive leaves. I'm not sure what may have caused this. The soil is very airy and light, plenty of sun (12-13 hours a day), regular watering with rain water. Also, the seedling soil contained root booster. Maybe there was a problem with big EC difference (0.5 vs 1.5-2.0) between seedling soil in the center and the remaing soil around - roots just didn't want to go to the 'hot' area soon. Maybe just genetics.
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Hi people, I've made some new shots. It's day 63.

AutoMazar is 23 days into flowering. I'm not sure if it's OK but the lower leaves just started yellowing. Could be natural but it seems too soon to me. I give her 3ml/L BioBizz Bloom twice per week so I don't think it's a problem with nutes (pH is 6.5-6.9). It looks like N deficiency but she doesn't stretch and grow new leaves anymore so there is no reason to use much Nitrogen. Also, Bloom nutes have some of it. Let's go:
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This is the "stressed" Think Big with smaller buds. They are just slightly bigger and more compact with more resin. All pistils are red but trichomes are still like 75/25 cloudy/clear, no amber so far. Also, very intense lemon/tropical smell.
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This Think Big is nice and will be better yielder. Still growing new bud sites with lot of white pistils. This one will take couple weeks more than the first one. The smell is very similar.
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hi bro- I don't have any easy answers on the Think Big, probably the best thing you can do is just keep growing her and see how it all pans out. At least there appears to be plenty of bud on offer, it should go well. Good luck
 
Hi DutchPassionTony, thanks for reply. I'm pretty sure now that it was my mistake. I LST'd them too late. Next time I'll do it a lot earlier and will probably use some coco or lightmix soil with better nute control. That could keep them veg longer. Anyway, Think Bigs are doing fine, the second one is still growing 'tower-like' buds with a lot of new pistils. I'll made some new shots soon.
 
Here I am with the newest update. It's day 80. The weather has been very bad this summer, actually, it's probably the worst summer ever in my life! Plenty of cloudy/rainy days. The plants still made impressive progress, surprisingly. I just had to remove 2 small buds on AutoMazar and one Thing Big because of mold. It was my mistake because I sprayed them (yeah, I'm dumb, you're right).

OK. here is the AutoMazar. It's a beautiful plant, rapid grow, lots of rockhard indica nugs, nice lemon/hash smell and... it's still flowering! :] Most of the pistils are white, and it will take a few extra weeks, maybe because of the weather. It seems it will take longer than Thing Bigs which is surprising. Also, I had to add some nutes with high N because the leaves were yellowing too fast (see previous update). She has recovered nicely within 2 days.
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This small Thing Big is finishing now, leaves are turning yellow/purple. It is the stressed one. The yield will be small but it's a GREAT smoke. Trust me on this, I just did some testing. :]
Beautiful shot right here.
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Think Big [HASHTAG]#2[/HASHTAG] is still flowering. Lots of new funny calyxes formations. Also, the smell has improved. It's very sweet honey/lemon smell now. The resin amount is just amazing. These are probably the frostiest buds I've ever have outdoor. Some of the calyxes are so much covered in resin you barely see the green. :] Another beatiful thing is that the bottom buds are almost the same size as tops.
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the buds look frosty enough - hoping the quality levels are up where they need to be......
 
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