New Grower The Basics ( very basic ) of organic growing for begginers

Soil

As we know, there are many types of soil, and we need to know what's best for growing our plants in. If your going to growing in soil and do so organically, what do you really need? How much do we really need to do to get quality soil? I'll not give your soil breakdown info, there are thousands of pages out there on that. We will work with premixed soils for a starting base.

Soil for growing is really comprised of a base mix, and an admix.
potting soil is a base mix. Its loam ( hopefully... ), a little humus and a filler meant to hold air and water.
An ad mix is the added fillers and nutrients we amend the soil with such as kelp meal and lime.

What should we use as a base mix? Well, we could mix our own from scratch, using sand, clay, humus, and compost. But really, getting a base mix just right is a lot of work and time consuming to boot. There are many brands of potting soil available, find one that works for you and stick with it. Its like buying flower for baking, its all pretty much the same! You could buy a mold and cast your own concrete blocks to build a structure with, but why bother? The same with base soil. I buy 30 quart bags of potting soil for $3.00 a bag, and its not the crap you find at Lowes either! Its good, clean, bug free soil from Canada and I'm tempted to buy a truck load and resell it! FoxFarm, etc has nothing on this soil!

When it comes to the admix that things get complicated. There are dozens and dozens of viable organic ingredients you can use. All of them work, some better than other. Some work fast, some are moderately slow, some very slow, some so slow your wasting you money buying them( greensand, Glacial dust, etc, unless you plan to live 500 years or so to see the results.... ).

You can buy premixed, dry, organic nutrients. They can save you a lot of work and some money too! Buying each component you will use can become expensive and buying them in small quantities is even more so when you factor in shipping or time and fuel to fetch them. So if your growing a few plant in small to medium containers, is probably more effective to buy boxed nutrients. Grow More
( 2/25/2021 - It's gotten hard to find the GrowMore organics sadly ) Doctor Earth, and Jobe's, are the most common brands. They sell ready to use mixes as well as small boxes of individual nutrients and suplements. I use Grow More Organic Soil builder, and Organic Flower and Bloom. I also use their " Palm Food" blend. Its still the same organic matter, in a slightly different ratio, and my plants love it just as much as the other, so buy what you can find and don't worry about it! I use Jobe's organic spikes also when I find them on sale, my house plants love them!

However, making your own ad mix is worthwhile also, especially if your growing more than a couple plants. There are dozens of formulas you can follow, I'm not listing them here. However, as typical of people, they can get very complicated. I personally don't believe organics should be complicated. Nature likes diversity, but it also likes elegant simplicity. So I've been working on my "KISS", I'm looking to make to simplest mix I can that remains effective, with little or no further additive generally required. I've also moved to using coco coir as a medium in place of peat. I'm trying to greatly reduce, and maybe eliminate peat from my soils. Peat moss is NOT a renewable resource, it takes hundreds of years for a peat bog to grow!
Now I understand that currently, almost all affordable mixes use peat, there's no escaping it. But I'm a firm believer in recycling soil so each recycle reduces the amount of remaining peat.I'll get into my mix shortly.

PH control in organic soil ( or any soil ) should start at the admix level! Fix it BEFORE you ever plant a seed or clone, and it should not ever be a problem that you even need to think about if your water is good. And here's the crux of the problem. Lime is the key to soil PH moderation. BUT, I've personally read at least 10 different recommendations on how much to use! So that is a part I'm experimenting with in my mixes. Lime not only acts as a ph buffer, it also provides calcium and sometimes magnesium also. A properly limed and cooked soil should never have a calcium problem. Too much lime however, can make the soil ph run high when too much is used. I think I've found the best starting point advice from the author Read Spear, in his book: "Small Spaces, Big Yields." This may be the best book on the market for beginning growers. He recommends lime be added as 10% OF THE ADMIX, not of te soil. I'll include his base formulas at the end.

Magnesium. Critical for your plant as its a component of Chlorophyll. There are several ways to include it. I think the best may be by adding Epsom Salts to the mix. Just as with Lime, the adequate amount is often hard to find in online information. I'll be using 5% of the admix as a base for testing. Again, I'm finding using an admix formula is easier for controlling what goes into your soil than mixing everything into the base. I believe this also makes blending your soil easier and more uniform in the final mix.

Not matter how good our mixes are though, issues will pop up, plants do what they want to do, they are worse than my children.........LOL! Some are always going to be finicky, other will grow in toxic waste... My point is, we will need to have a couple of nutrients available. NPK, the three key nutrients make up 90% of all nutrient problems in any soil. Some plants are just hogs and will take almost all you can throw at them. Most are not like that though. Still, good soil is partly science and partly an art you learn by doing, and plants don't read science books, that's what makes them so un-cooperative at times.....

Sometimes, just adding a little of your admix as a top dressing will be all you need, or even better, fresh worm castings! I feel that you should also keep a few items in case of deficiencies. Blood meal for FAST doses of N, kelp meal for K, molasses or alfalfa meal for P, lime and Epsom salts or Cal/Mag for calcium and magnesium. Use these if you see definite signs of deficiency. N in particular is easy to spot.

Mixes:

My current mixes:

Base:

Update: 2/25/2021 I've modified my mix slightly. Either mix will work fine I just like my new mix better.

Old Mix
30% coco coir
50% potting soil
10% cow manure
10% peat

New Mix
20% coco coir
70% organic potting soil
10 cow or horse manure ( composted )

Admix:
60% worm castings
5% Jobe's , Dr. Earth, etc
5% blood meal
10% dolomite lime ( fine ground is best )
15% chicken manure ( or a blend of Bat guano and Seabird guano )
5% epsom salts

KISS MIX:

60% worm castings
20% boxed " super soil" nutrients, Jobe's Doctor Earth, etc
10% lime
10% epsom salts

Read Spear's mixes:

Base:
35% coco
25% perlite
25% peat
15% compost

Admix:
40% composted manure
25% topsoil ( the real stuff, black and fine grained )
10% Dolomite Lime
10% Gypsum
5% Bone meal
5% blood meal
5% azomite
mix 2 parts base to one part admix. Cook for 2 weeks to 30 days if mixing large batches, for a gallon or two, just a few days for the lime to work is all that's needed. The KISS mix you can use right away!

Don't get the idea I'm an organic expert, I'm certainly not! But, I do my homework always and never trust just one source! I am however, on a quest as always to sort out the bullshit from the good information. I hope this will give beginners a place to start on the path to good organics!
 
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Do you wash or do anything to the coco before mixing it in? I'm going to be getting a brick very soon.
 
I've never washed Botanicare coco. From reading their website, there is no need to. Also, most of the better brands ad buffers to the coco and you'll wash them out. I just drop mine in a 20 gallon tub and add 5 gallons of RO water with cal/mag. sometimes after it has abosobed the water, you may need to add a little more. Don't add too much water or then you have to darin it.
Do you wash or do anything to the coco before mixing it in? I'm going to be getting a brick very soon.
 
Thanks! Im grateful for the help, slowly trying to get a better environment for growing.
 
If your growing in organic soil, people don't use bloom nutes or any manufactured nutes, if you do, its NOT organic! The best source of micro nutrients for organic soil is Azomite and kelp or seaweed. However, if your plants are calcium toxic, adding micros won't fix anything. MAYBE flushing the soil with water might help, but....... put about a gallon of water through the pot the let it dry out, its all you can do now.

What you need to do is decide whether you want to grow organic, or with bottled nutrients, trying to do both won't turn out well. I suggest next grow you follow my soil recipe. Add nothing extra, just water and let them grow.
After you've had a successful grow or two, then, if you want to try growing another style, you'll have more confidence and knowledge.
I can find cow manure locally a few miles away at the dairy farms around but im not sure if its composted....Does it matter? What if i find fresh cow manure then how can i compost it?
 
I just buy it by the bag at any garden center, greenhouse, or even at hardware store. Dealing with fresh it just not worth it. its cheap

I can find cow manure locally a few miles away at the dairy farms around but im not sure if its composted....Does it matter? What if i find fresh cow manure then how can i compost it?
 
great write up a little confusing,but if your confused that means your learning.I used organic 10-5-5 on my last and final out door grow this is what one of them look like northern lights,a friend brought me this wiltering plant and wanted me to fix,I ask what am I a friggen weed doctor
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Hey pop, sorry if this has been asked already but do you fill the entire pot with your final mix or just the bottom half and the top with potting mix. So much differing information around I am a bit confused. Is it possible to read too much?
 
I have been exploring Jadam a natural farming practice from Korea, this is peasent farming so it is based on inexpensive natural ingredients. One additive is Jadam soil drench. To make you take a 5 gal bucket, or a 20 gal garbage can, for 5 gal boil 2 large potato till mushy soft. Place in mesh bag and immerse in 5 gal h20, Mush the potato till a white clouds of starch floats out. Now grab another mesh bag and go to the forest and grab a big hand full of leaf mold, that's the soil on the forest floor made by decomposing leaves. You should now have 5 gal water with 2 mesh bags floating in it. Let the bucket sit in a warm place foe several days, no air pump needed. After 4- 5 days you see a ring of small bubbles this is caused from bacteria and fungi eating the starch and farting. When the bubble ring begins to colaps all there food is gone and the bacteria numbers will decline. It is time to use this, as a soil drench and folder spray mix 30 parts water to 1part jadam juice.
To make a simple fertiliser put about a gallon of jadam juice in a 5 gal bucket and add weeds and grass or even the fan leaves from ur plants, let brew for a week and again 30- 1.you can add more water and more weeds to keep ur brew going all summer. For minerals you can add sea salt or Himalaya salt. To feed my plants I added a week solution of 0-10-10 bloom nutes, kelp liquid,Epsom salts, can put a bit of molasses. This stuff tends to stink a lot.
 
Interesting! Salt level is much lower though in Azomite. sodium chloride is not good for plants except in tiny amounts.

I have been exploring Jadam a natural farming practice from Korea, this is peasent farming so it is based on inexpensive natural ingredients. One additive is Jadam soil drench. To make you take a 5 gal bucket, or a 20 gal garbage can, for 5 gal boil 2 large potato till mushy soft. Place in mesh bag and immerse in 5 gal h20, Mush the potato till a white clouds of starch floats out. Now grab another mesh bag and go to the forest and grab a big hand full of leaf mold, that's the soil on the forest floor made by decomposing leaves. You should now have 5 gal water with 2 mesh bags floating in it. Let the bucket sit in a warm place foe several days, no air pump needed. After 4- 5 days you see a ring of small bubbles this is caused from bacteria and fungi eating the starch and farting. When the bubble ring begins to colaps all there food is gone and the bacteria numbers will decline. It is time to use this, as a soil drench and folder spray mix 30 parts water to 1part jadam juice.
To make a simple fertiliser put about a gallon of jadam juice in a 5 gal bucket and add weeds and grass or even the fan leaves from ur plants, let brew for a week and again 30- 1.you can add more water and more weeds to keep ur brew going all summer. For minerals you can add sea salt or Himalaya salt. To feed my plants I added a week solution of 0-10-10 bloom nutes, kelp liquid,Epsom salts, can put a bit of molasses. This stuff tends to stink a lot.
 

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