do you start them under strong light? I know all my plants I start under much higher amounts of light then most people probably would, I figure the sun isn't forgiven to them if they were outside, so no need for me to be inside! I just can't see point of using cfl's I like start off with at least 200w (True watts) from germ and constantly increase over period of the grow. I use only small 3gal pots also.This grow being started under approx 277w (true watt) and will be increase to little over 1,000w.
@TehSnow I think you have everything dialed in your system best your able too under the circumstances, I think your lights holding you back from getting the big plants, they simply not strong enough,everything else seems right on where it should be. Autopots still won't give you them big plants and if they were too, how would you get enough light to them? I think any upgrade would be your lights first, you can get monster size plants with pot size your using after all I get 6ft tree's in 3gal pots.
this thing is well built, you can easily notice that even from the packaging it comes in. very solid I was skeptical it would work as claimed, but it's really close to what they claim. and Im pretty impressed just seeing growth how tight my inter-nodes are, usually i get that with mh not with led.
