Mephisto Genetics Strawberry Nuggets DWC

[slowandeasy]

Day 53
Trichomes are beginning to be noticeable on some newer fan leaves now

Roots

Here is the reality, DWC usually takes longer for Autos. They do fine, just take longer that usual due to plant and Root size. DWC needs that 5 gal bucket to keep everything happy. Using a 3 gal jug will only create problems and the plants won't do as well most likely. You need enough water and Oxygen for the roots and they will consume the entire 3 gal bucket. I am not trying to vere you in another direction. I am just trying to state that you have to prepare for longer grow times I you run DWC with Autos. Very rare to go sooner than expected. I know time ia a factor for you. A simple solution would be to just start your next round a week or 2 before harvesting your current plants. So your plants have a 2 week head start. Like I said, the plants looking great. Just might add some extra time on a vast majority of strains. Good luck

 

[NG420]

Day 53
Trichomes are beginning to be noticeable on some newer fan leaves now

Roots

big roots = big fruits!

looking nice and healthy

 

[MrOldBoy]

Here is the reality, DWC usually takes longer for Autos. They do fine, just take longer that usual due to plant and Root size. DWC needs that 5 gal bucket to keep everything happy. Using a 3 gal jug will only create problems and the plants won't do as well most likely. You need enough water and Oxygen for the roots and they will consume the entire 3 gal bucket. I am not trying to vere you in another direction. I am just trying to state that you have to prepare for longer grow times I you run DWC with Autos. Very rare to go sooner than expected. I know time ia a factor for you. A simple solution would be to just start your next round a week or 2 before harvesting your current plants. So your plants have a 2 week head start. Like I said, the plants looking great. Just might add some extra time on a vast majority of strains. Good luck

so what if you used a six or seven gallon bucket?

Would they take even longer? Would the buds be bigger!

Curious,
MOB

 

[slowandeasy]

so what if you used a six or seven gallon bucket?

Would they take even longer? Would the buds be bigger!

Curious,
MOB

Given the right strain, it might take longer and or yield more. The Roots will consume a majority of the container in a 5 gal bucket. 3 gal might not be enough water for them the whole life of the plant without potential issues. With Autos there is the Autoflowering genes that will also determine when they start to flower. It is a combination of Roots nutes,, environment and genes on Autofloweing strains that determine when they start to flower. With larger root space in Hydro and Coco the Autoflowering strain triggers itself to start to flower later than in a smaller container. It typically stays in veg longer, which leads to longer Flowering times. I am not sure why Organic Soil grows do NOT follow this, as MOST properly grown Organic plants tend to finish more on time in larger pots. If you listen to some of the Kis Podcasts, I believe it is like what Jeff Lowenfell was talking about in an episode. Organic Soil seems to "UNLOCK" the virtual KEYS that help trigger Flowering sooner. Most likely the PK triggers get unlocked faster? More research had to be done to determine optimal conditions for earlier flower production in Autoflower strains. The sooner the plant "unlocks" these virtual doors, the sooner they hit Flower. With large pots of Coco or Water, the plants tend to keep vegging longer. They are not triggered as fast as plants that are in good Organic Soil in the same size container.
For example, if you put a Strawberry Nuggets in a 5 gal bucket of good Organic soil and it is properly taken care of, it will finish sooner than both the Coco and Hydro plants. What is the difference? The root system on a plant in a 5 gal bucket of Coco or DWC will be MUCH larger than any soil grown plant. So I believe the plants in Coco and Hydro keep their energy focused on making more ROOTS longer and not on budding in larger pots. Once the plant opens the "doors" to start flowering, the plants energy is the focused on budding instead of rooting and vegging.
If you keep a seedling in a Solo cup of Coco, it will start to preflower sooner than in a 5 gal bucket of Coco. The roots get bounded up and the trigger is bud sooner, as a way of self preservation. I believe that organic soil plants are triggered differently because of their metabolism is different as a result of how they eat. Slow and steady vs fast and Furious eating plays a role in how long the stay in Veg mode. I would love to study how we as Auto growers can manipulate the cycle length more in our favor. Peace, slowandeasy

 

[MrOldBoy]

@slowandeasy ..... Makes perfect sense ...... Thanks for explanatio!

Peace,
MOB

 

[MrChok]

Given the right strain, it might take longer and or yield more. The Roots will consume a majority of the container in a 5 gal bucket. 3 gal might not be enough water for them the whole life of the plant without potential issues. With Autos there is the Autoflowering genes that will also determine when they start to flower. It is a combination of Roots nutes,, environment and genes on Autofloweing strains that determine when they start to flower. With larger root space in Hydro and Coco the Autoflowering strain triggers itself to start to flower later than in a smaller container. It typically stays in veg longer, which leads to longer Flowering times. I am not sure why Organic Soil grows do NOT follow this, as MOST properly grown Organic plants tend to finish more on time in larger pots. If you listen to some of the Kis Podcasts, I believe it is like what Jeff Lowenfell was talking about in an episode. Organic Soil seems to "UNLOCK" the virtual KEYS that help trigger Flowering sooner. Most likely the PK triggers get unlocked faster? More research had to be done to determine optimal conditions for earlier flower production in Autoflower strains. The sooner the plant "unlocks" these virtual doors, the sooner they hit Flower. With large pots of Coco or Water, the plants tend to keep vegging longer. They are not triggered as fast as plants that are in good Organic Soil in the same size container.
For example, if you put a Strawberry Nuggets in a 5 gal bucket of good Organic soil and it is properly taken care of, it will finish sooner than both the Coco and Hydro plants. What is the difference? The root system on a plant in a 5 gal bucket of Coco or DWC will be MUCH larger than any soil grown plant. So I believe the plants in Coco and Hydro keep their energy focused on making more ROOTS longer and not on budding in larger pots. Once the plant opens the "doors" to start flowering, the plants energy is the focused on budding instead of rooting and vegging.
If you keep a seedling in a Solo cup of Coco, it will start to preflower sooner than in a 5 gal bucket of Coco. The roots get bounded up and the trigger is bud sooner, as a way of self preservation. I believe that organic soil plants are triggered differently because of their metabolism is different as a result of how they eat. Slow and steady vs fast and Furious eating plays a role in how long the stay in Veg mode. I would love to study how we as Auto growers can manipulate the cycle length more in our favor. Peace, slowandeasy

dude, that's just a great explanation. as a lurker, thanks for going so in-depth with this theory, it actually makes a lot of sense.

 

[Slim Piggens]

Given the right strain, it might take longer and or yield more. The Roots will consume a majority of the container in a 5 gal bucket. 3 gal might not be enough water for them the whole life of the plant without potential issues. With Autos there is the Autoflowering genes that will also determine when they start to flower. It is a combination of Roots nutes,, environment and genes on Autofloweing strains that determine when they start to flower. With larger root space in Hydro and Coco the Autoflowering strain triggers itself to start to flower later than in a smaller container. It typically stays in veg longer, which leads to longer Flowering times. I am not sure why Organic Soil grows do NOT follow this, as MOST properly grown Organic plants tend to finish more on time in larger pots. If you listen to some of the Kis Podcasts, I believe it is like what Jeff Lowenfell was talking about in an episode. Organic Soil seems to "UNLOCK" the virtual KEYS that help trigger Flowering sooner. Most likely the PK triggers get unlocked faster? More research had to be done to determine optimal conditions for earlier flower production in Autoflower strains. The sooner the plant "unlocks" these virtual doors, the sooner they hit Flower. With large pots of Coco or Water, the plants tend to keep vegging longer. They are not triggered as fast as plants that are in good Organic Soil in the same size container.
For example, if you put a Strawberry Nuggets in a 5 gal bucket of good Organic soil and it is properly taken care of, it will finish sooner than both the Coco and Hydro plants. What is the difference? The root system on a plant in a 5 gal bucket of Coco or DWC will be MUCH larger than any soil grown plant. So I believe the plants in Coco and Hydro keep their energy focused on making more ROOTS longer and not on budding in larger pots. Once the plant opens the "doors" to start flowering, the plants energy is the focused on budding instead of rooting and vegging.
If you keep a seedling in a Solo cup of Coco, it will start to preflower sooner than in a 5 gal bucket of Coco. The roots get bounded up and the trigger is bud sooner, as a way of self preservation. I believe that organic soil plants are triggered differently because of their metabolism is different as a result of how they eat. Slow and steady vs fast and Furious eating plays a role in how long the stay in Veg mode. I would love to study how we as Auto growers can manipulate the cycle length more in our favor. Peace, slowandeasy

Slow, can’t tell you how much I learn and appreciate your posts. Can’t thank you enough man.

 

[MissUniverse]

Given the right strain, it might take longer and or yield more. The Roots will consume a majority of the container in a 5 gal bucket. 3 gal might not be enough water for them the whole life of the plant without potential issues. With Autos there is the Autoflowering genes that will also determine when they start to flower. It is a combination of Roots nutes,, environment and genes on Autofloweing strains that determine when they start to flower. With larger root space in Hydro and Coco the Autoflowering strain triggers itself to start to flower later than in a smaller container. It typically stays in veg longer, which leads to longer Flowering times. I am not sure why Organic Soil grows do NOT follow this, as MOST properly grown Organic plants tend to finish more on time in larger pots. If you listen to some of the Kis Podcasts, I believe it is like what Jeff Lowenfell was talking about in an episode. Organic Soil seems to "UNLOCK" the virtual KEYS that help trigger Flowering sooner. Most likely the PK triggers get unlocked faster? More research had to be done to determine optimal conditions for earlier flower production in Autoflower strains. The sooner the plant "unlocks" these virtual doors, the sooner they hit Flower. With large pots of Coco or Water, the plants tend to keep vegging longer. They are not triggered as fast as plants that are in good Organic Soil in the same size container.
For example, if you put a Strawberry Nuggets in a 5 gal bucket of good Organic soil and it is properly taken care of, it will finish sooner than both the Coco and Hydro plants. What is the difference? The root system on a plant in a 5 gal bucket of Coco or DWC will be MUCH larger than any soil grown plant. So I believe the plants in Coco and Hydro keep their energy focused on making more ROOTS longer and not on budding in larger pots. Once the plant opens the "doors" to start flowering, the plants energy is the focused on budding instead of rooting and vegging.
If you keep a seedling in a Solo cup of Coco, it will start to preflower sooner than in a 5 gal bucket of Coco. The roots get bounded up and the trigger is bud sooner, as a way of self preservation. I believe that organic soil plants are triggered differently because of their metabolism is different as a result of how they eat. Slow and steady vs fast and Furious eating plays a role in how long the stay in Veg mode. I would love to study how we as Auto growers can manipulate the cycle length more in our favor. Peace, slowandeasy

Great info slow! I like the line of thought and I think you're right on the money! Thanks for the post!

 

[MissUniverse]

Day 56

 

[slowandeasy]

Slow, can’t tell you how much I learn and appreciate your posts. Can’t thank you enough man.

My pleasure @Slim Piggens, I just like to share my experiences and knowledge. I have dedicated more than half of my life to growing. I have seen many changes in growing styles and philosophies. I am always up to improving everyone's growing skills, including my own. Growing = Learning. I continue to educate myself daily, because growers need to evolve with new technology and knowledge that we all bring to the table as growers. Peace slowandeasy
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