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[St. Tom]

They practically doubled in size since the last update mate.
Just sit back and watch them fatten now

Thanks bro ones yellowing a bit more than I'd liked but I tend to burn all my plants to get the most out of them also @TheMongol here's my thread I had to bin the solo cups as they were photos

 

[St. Tom]

Couple of pics I've had slight lockouts but I'm still in a great place with a great harvest also the 2nd pic the other petes cookies is in the back left

 

[Trichome farmer]

Couple of pics I've had slight lockouts but I'm still in a great place with a great harvest also the 2nd pic the other petes cookies is in the back left View attachment 1275898View attachment 1275899View attachment 1275900

so many tops on that girl in the front you have become quite the plant manipulator
whats causing the lockouts you think too high of E.C ph drifting ?

 

[St. Tom]

so many tops on that girl in the front you have become quite the plant manipulator
whats causing the lockouts you think too high of E.C ph drifting ?

If I'm honest bro at times it has me absolutely baffled so I'm improving some things next round I'm going to try airdomes in my autopots but top and bottom of it seems to be lockouts also some pics from today also the back girl is coming off the res for a mini flush and I'm going to top feed her as I never have an issue with top fed plants

 

[idiopathic neuropathy]

If I'm honest bro at times it has me absolutely baffled so I'm improving some things next round I'm going to try airdomes in my autopots but top and bottom of it seems to be lockouts also some pics from today also the back girl is coming off the res for a mini flush and I'm going to top feed her as I never have an issue with top fed plants View attachment 1276357View attachment 1276358View attachment 1276359View attachment 1276360

Hi Tom,
I have had similar experiences with lockouts with several autopot grows and have done alot of research and headscrathing. Some of my findings/experiences were. Firstly, it never happens to all the plants. It's just one plant. And I have learned to catch it early and resolve it by flushing that one plant. I usually grow 2,3 or 4 plants of all different genetics per grow. So,I thought it might be genetically related with that plant being sensitive to the ppm of the nutes that the other plants could tolerate. Another observation---It usually happens to just one plant. One time I thought it was related to turning on the reservoir to soon for one plant. One time I found, again with one plant the valve was semi stuck leaving the tray rather full and therefore not getting that dry tray cycling.
The next "tear" im on is---I'm fiddly fucking with is the coco itself. This next run i am doing a heavy precharge of calmag and soaking the pot for 12 -24 hours, based on some well written research and also strains the small pieces of coco...since my bagged coco is cheap and have no clue how to contact the company to see if/how it was treated. I am also reusing coco from one of my past grows pretreating it the same way.
For what it's worth, I have seen a grow or two that had lockout even though they used airdomes.
I would say screw it and not use the autopots, but they are so handy and a necessity when I have to travel. It baffles me to since if it was salt build up I would it would happen to all the plants on that particular run.
Which leads me to think its one fussy valve related. So, also will be checking the valves daily this next run.
@St. Tom .
I don't want to bombard you with research articles. But, if you are interested----here is a decent article(s) for coco knowledge.https://manicbotanix.com/hydroponic-coir-substrate-science
Peace, and love your grows!

 

[St. Tom]

Hi Tom,
I have had similar experiences with lockouts with several autopot grows and have done alot of research and headscrathing. Some of my findings/experiences were. Firstly, it never happens to all the plants. It's just one plant. And I have learned to catch it early and resolve it by flushing that one plant. I usually grow 2,3 or 4 plants of all different genetics per grow. So,I thought it might be genetically related with that plant being sensitive to the ppm of the nutes that the other plants could tolerate. Another observation---It usually happens to just one plant. One time I thought it was related to turning on the reservoir to soon for one plant. One time I found, again with one plant the valve was semi stuck leaving the tray rather full and therefore not getting that dry tray cycling.
The next "tear" im on is---I'm fiddly fucking with is the coco itself. This next run i am doing a heavy precharge of calmag and soaking the pot for 12 -24 hours, based on some well written research and also strains the small pieces of coco...since my bagged coco is cheap and have no clue how to contact the company to see if/how it was treated. I am also reusing coco from one of my past grows pretreating it the same way.
For what it's worth, I have seen a grow or two that had lockout even though they used airdomes.
I would say screw it and not use the autopots, but they are so handy and a necessity when I have to travel. It baffles me to since if it was salt build up I would it would happen to all the plants on that particular run.
Which leads me to think its one fussy valve related. So, also will be checking the valves daily this next run.
@St. Tom .
I don't want to bombard you with research articles. But, if you are interested----here is a decent article(s) for coco knowledge.
Peace, and love your grows!

Thanks so much bro and I've even just recently changed to the new 2020 floats and I've been checking the floats and rubbers but as you say it's baffling I also use new canna coco each run but @Nosias raised some good points about calmag saying if he doesn't give large doses of it things go tits up for him so I'm trying to take on all these pointers so what are your thoughts on calmag as I feel when there losing colour if I up my main feed I get burned tips

 

[idiopathic neuropathy]

I suggest you read the articles in the link i sent. It expresses the knowledge so much better than I could. I understand principles/theories well, but writing is not one of my strengths. In short, if I had the grow space I would run 10 or so of the same strain. To see if the lockouts were being caused by different genetics. But I don't have the space, besides I like strain variety.
So I am half ass testing cleaning the coco and prebuffereing with 8ml/g for ~24 hrs of calmag with 300ppm nutes ph'd 6 ish. This is based on the idea that my coco is not being processed appropriately for cannabis. I wish these companies that produce coco would show test results of what is in their product. Inherently, coco can contain and abundance of K, NA, CL, and NaCl. I won't get into cation exchange processes, I hope you are aware of this already.. If not read some articles, please.These abudant elements might be interfering with other elements(nutrients) and thereby causing us problems to some genetic strains but possibly not to other strains.
But this is just a theory.

 

[St. Tom]

I suggest you read the articles in the link i sent. It expresses the knowledge so much better than I could. I understand principles/theories well, but writing is not one of my strengths. In short, if I had the grow space I would run 10 or so of the same strain. To see if the lockouts were being caused by different genetics. But I don't have the space, besides I like strain variety.
So I am half ass testing cleaning the coco and prebuffereing with 8ml/g for ~24 hrs of calmag with 300ppm nutes ph'd 6 ish. This is based on the idea that my coco is not being processed appropriately for cannabis. I wish these companies that produce coco would show test results of what is in their product. Inherently, coco can contain and abundance of K, NA, CL, and NaCl. I won't get into cation exchange processes, I hope you are aware of this already.. If not read some articles, please.These abudant elements might be interfering with other elements(nutrients) and thereby causing us problems to some genetic strains but possibly not to other strains.
But this is just a theory.

Can you keep me updated on your findings but I think the calmag is somehow related maybe it's just with coco and led lights also can I ask what feed you use as I've had similar issues with remo and emerald harvest nutes

 

[Nosias]

I suggest you read the articles in the link i sent. It expresses the knowledge so much better than I could. I understand principles/theories well, but writing is not one of my strengths. In short, if I had the grow space I would run 10 or so of the same strain. To see if the lockouts were being caused by different genetics. But I don't have the space, besides I like strain variety.
So I am half ass testing cleaning the coco and prebuffereing with 8ml/g for ~24 hrs of calmag with 300ppm nutes ph'd 6 ish. This is based on the idea that my coco is not being processed appropriately for cannabis. I wish these companies that produce coco would show test results of what is in their product. Inherently, coco can contain and abundance of K, NA, CL, and NaCl. I won't get into cation exchange processes, I hope you are aware of this already.. If not read some articles, please.These abudant elements might be interfering with other elements(nutrients) and thereby causing us problems to some genetic strains but possibly not to other strains.
But this is just a theory.

What Coco do you use? I use Botanicare COCOGRO. I use it right out of the bag. I mix it with perlite and put it in the auto pot 2.2. I do not pre soak it. Now as I have said many times do not do what I do.

There are so many ways to grow. You will find it.

 

[idiopathic neuropathy]

Can you keep me updated on your findings but I think the calmag is somehow related maybe it's just with coco and led lights also can I ask what feed you use as I've had similar issues with remo and emerald harvest nutes

Next grow for the first time I will be using Jacks 321....prior was GH, and megacrop.
Will keep you updated