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Thanks Squid,i was thinkin of tryin the promix as i see alot of other people using it with good results. Don't get me wrong,i do pretty good with ffof but would like to try something else to see if i can get even better results. WVR gave me the skinny on the promix bx and what nutes to get to go with it to get me on the right track. The garden shops 10 minutes from me and they have the promix bx in big bales-i may still go grab some tomorrow as planned. I guess a test run with it won't hurt and hopefully it works as its a helluva lot of media to get rid of if it don't. I got 180lbs. of ffof on hand just in case lol.