Indoor Snerval runs mostly Indicas on BioTabs Line - Second grow

[snerval]

Thanks @Bob's Auto's !

I'm about to chop my Gorilla cookie
A bit nervous because this is my first "big" plant lol

So I checked :

Trichomes - a good 30% amber almost everywhere... and she continues to throw white pistils !
Leaves - at last they started to fade out !
Age - this seed came to me as a freebie from seedsman - it says 70 days - actual age 84 days.

Buds are fairly dense but not that sticky - even the "pop corn" ones are quite dense too !

Right now it's 28°C/82°F - RH 59% in my drying room, which is the lung room actually, only place where I can control smell...).
I've read that best T° for drying is around 20°C/68°F
I'm afraid that this lack of control of T° may have impacted this grow (the dryness of the buds), and I don't want to mess this dry !
But what to do ? AC isn't an option right now...

Anyway I'm going to hang her at least 2/3 days, then some more time in paper bags as branches, then into grove bag after trimming.
I understand that I must stabilize the buds at around 62°% RH.

Does this sound OK to you ?

GC

GC - Lower buds

GC - One of the 2 main colas

I have several questions regarding this run, I will develop them at the end of it when the finishing line is crossed and everyone in GB...

A bientôt,

 

[Bob's Auto's]

Thanks @Bob's Auto's !

I'm about to chop my Gorilla cookie
A bit nervous because this is my first "big" plant lol

So I checked :

Trichomes - a good 30% amber almost everywhere... and she continues to throw white pistils !
Leaves - at last they started to fade out !
Age - this seed came to me as a freebie from seedsman - it says 70 days - actual age 84 days.

Buds are fairly dense but not that sticky - even the "pop corn" ones are quite dense too !

Right now it's 28°C/82°F - RH 59% in my drying room, which is the lung room actually, only place where I can control smell...).
I've read that best T° for drying is around 20°C/68°F
I'm afraid that this lack of control of T° may have impacted this grow (the dryness of the buds), and I don't want to mess this dry !
But what to do ? AC isn't an option right now...

Anyway I'm going to hang her at least 2/3 days, then some more time in paper bags as branches, then into grove bag after trimming.
I understand that I must stabilize the buds at around 62°% RH.

Does this sound OK to you ?

GC
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GC - Lower buds
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GC - One of the 2 main colas
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I have several questions regarding this run, I will develop them at the end of it when the finishing line is crossed and everyone in GB...

A bientôt,

Some cultivars just don't make that much apparent trichomes, but they are still there. It's only in smoking you'll find out if it's worthy or not.
I would hang the plant whole upside down. This will extend the drying period by quite some time. Better to get it in a bit to wet rather then to dry as you need the buds sort of alive for curing...

 

[snerval]

... a few days later

And so here is the end of this 2nd run, all the plants are dry to the point and well installed in their assigned grove bag

As I expected, 3 of the 4 plants gave low results in terms of quantity - I vaped and gave about 10g of each plant, because, you know, one has to take advantage of the cannabinoids as soon as possible, right ?
As for the quality, I will know more after a curing period of at least 1 month...

So here are the results (Grove Bags weight 21g, so I remove this to each result, apart for WG).
I tag @420Forever (how are you doing ?), don't know if I earn another badge lol

- OG Kush Auto had a root problem from the beginning, but I still decided to let her live without touching her (apart from a little light defoliation) - her sister never germinated... poor genetic ?
Very early in flowering this little plant developed a pronounced aroma of fruity citrus... what a treat !
49g - 21g (bag) + 10g (vaped) = 38g

- Blueberry Auto has been a real pleasure to grow !
53g - 21g + 10g = 42g

- Wedding Glue Auto gave me trouble, this plant stayed very small and had an episode of calcium lockout, due to a little excess of fertilizer - problem solved by switching to water only mode for a few days - very small yield...
7g (tare already removed)

- Finally, Gorilla Cookie Auto is my greatest achievement !
I can say that this is my first really successful plant
The two branches resulting from the topping stretched spectacularly, practically up to the LED light...
This plant is a real lesson and a great exercise to improve my practice next time, especially how to control such a stretch !!
3 grove bags for this lady ^^
Medium buds : 69g - 21g + 10g = 58g

Large buds1 : 64g - 21g + 10g = 53g

Large buds2 : 57g - 21g + 10g = 46g

GC

Thank you @BioTabs for your range of organic fertilizers, that's exactly what I was looking for
Thank you to the eminent cultivators present on AFN and who are a great help for us poor beginners lol

I planned my next run in March 2023, with the main goal of getting the temperature control in my tent right... I'll come back to that.

See you next time !
S.

 

[snerval]

@Dankerson Thank you !
I learn a lot following your grows mate

 

[Bob's Auto's]

Great job mate!! Enjoy that bud!!
And let us know what you think about it?

 

[snerval]

@Bob's Auto's Thanks for the rep friend !

 

[snerval]

Great job mate!! Enjoy that bud!!
And let us know what you think about it?

Thanks !!

So happy with this grow, even though I had a lot of problems with the seeds for a starter...
I'm more confident in my ability to grow our beloved Plant, and more important, I'm liking more and more horticulture !
I want to learn more and more ^^

But...
I must work on a better control of the tent... it was way too hot this summer - 5 heat waves, and it's not over - 12 mm of rain since last may

Then I had a dilemma : I should add some RH to stick with VPD chart for the plant sake, but RH shouldn't be up during flower stage...
So multiple times I gave up and it was hot (30°C, with spikes at 32°) with 55% RH...
As a result, it seems to me that the buds lack some resin.
The smoke (vape) is OK if I consider the high and overall effect, but I'm a bit disappointed by the weakness of aromas.
Only the small OGK is already pleasantly sweet-smelling.

On the other hand, I follow your grows @bob's, and I can see very high temps associated with very high RH too
I understand you did have a slight mold problem (if I remember well) but nothing catastrophic.

Now I guess it's a choice to be made, high temp, high RH, better resinous plants, but greater risk of getting mold...
Am I right ?

Whatever, my next grow will occur next march (cold here), so I'll be able to easily maintain low temps for night time as well as for drying...

 

[Bob's Auto's]

So happy with this grow, even though I had a lot of problems with the seeds for a starter...
I'm more confident in my ability to grow our beloved Plant, and more important, I'm liking more and more horticulture !
I want to learn more and more ^^

We're all here to learn and hewn out skills brother!

I must work on a better control of the tent... it was way too hot this summer - 5 heat waves, and it's not over - 12 mm of rain since last may

Sometimes there's not much you can do about it. If you need use of a airconditioner then you'd better call it quits. Better to just play with the cards in hand and ride out the heatwave. Better to dry then to wet, but you know that already

Then I had a dilemma : I should add some RH to stick with VPD chart for the plant sake, but RH shouldn't be up during flower stage...
So multiple times I gave up and it was hot (30°C, with spikes at 32°) with 55% RH...

Yeah...VPD provides you with a nice guideline to follow and it is scientifically correct. Water will condense at certain temperature/humidity/air pressure's. Knowing how a leaf reacts to those conditions is key to create the perfect conditions for your plants. Bút, what when you can't create those conditions...ie, when it's physically impossible to maintain temperature between 24-27°C/ 75-81°F or/and the humidity.
I use VPD as a guideline when possible and as something to look out for when not...

The smoke (vape) is OK if I consider the high and overall effect, but I'm a bit disappointed by the weakness of aromas.
Only the small OGK is already pleasantly sweet-smelling.

Sometimes high heat has nothing to do with flavor, but rather with genetics. I've grown many a cultivars over these past few years and I've had plenty of good ones, some really good ones and the exceptional unicorn you look for, but can't seem to find...This coin does have another side to it too though

That's why I'll let the buds cure in the GBs for a good while, to check the smell...

A good cure will do wonders for your weed, but remember...Quality in = quality out

On the other hand, I follow your grows @bob's, and I can see very high temps associated with very high RH too
I understand you did have a slight mold problem (if I remember well) but nothing catastrophic.

Thanks, I know and follow your growing adventures as well (as many others)
When planning my outdoor (greenhouse) grow I always calculate 30% loss due to mold. This year has been *holding wood* spectacularly mold free, except for a small bud here and there. So that's something to keep in mind. Either you can hold the perfect conditions or you compensate by changing variables...

Now I guess it's a choice to be made, high temp, high RH, better resinous plants, but greater risk of getting mold...
Am I right ?

I'd go for high temperature, low humidity any day over high humidity, unless it's while the ladies are younglings. then you want high(er) humidity...