Should i pot up during mid flower duento drying out daily

[Trickiebush]

Just a quick bit of advice please all. I've got my 2 emergency outdoor autos and they're looking ok so far and about 4 weeks or so into flower. The problem is I only left them is smaller spots smaller pots for stealth but then larger one is needing feeding every day. Is it too late to transplant and if not how to best minimise shock

 

[Growtogrow]

Just a quick bit of advice please all. I've got my 2 emergency outdoor autos and they're looking ok so far and about 4 weeks or so into flower. The problem is I only left them is smaller spots smaller pots for stealth but then larger one is needing feeding every day. Is it too late to transplant and if not how to best minimise shock

Well brother you're in a predicament right now.
I guess you've learned don't use those little- itty-bitty.. pots no more right?.

So I've done this before myself long ago it sucks... but you got to do something.....because you're stressing the plant no matter what you do.... And ...you can't leave it in the little pot. No..way...and moving it there's a chance you're going to hurt it.......
But you're going be better off moving it.... Yes. moving it to a bigger pot... much much bigger...

this is what I would do and this is how I would do it....

First off get a big ass pot at least a 10-gallon that's f@$king minimum come on man.

Make sure you got enough soil to backfill after putting the plant in that pot. Use a good soil. Commercial organic tomato soil would be great can't find that any commercial organic soil would be fine. Fox Farm ocean Forest would be fine Happy Frog would be fine.

Put a layer of the soil down in the bottom of your new big ass pot about 3 or 4 in deep...
Now Your plant that you're going to transplant into there should be pretty dry and I'm sure it's very root bound. I wouldn't worry too much about it falling apart when you're flipping it over there and transplanting it into the new pot.

Now Put the plant down in there on top of that new soil.
And Backfill around the plant with the new soil and Water it deeply...

While you're doing all this try not to jostle The Roots around too much. Don't stab them don't rip on them just slide it out of the old pot and slide into the new pot.
It should slide out really easy for you it's dry and root bound everything should be bound together pretty well.
Again water generously deeply.

Let It Go for 24 hours let me know how it how it comes out.

Good luck brother happy growing
This is an learning experiences. And is the number one learning tool that I know of...
you've just gotten a knowledge bump.

 

[Olderfart]

Hi, and nice looking plants. As @Growtogrow correctly points out, transplanting your ladies should be physically doable, although a challenge. I think that stem and branch damage is a larger risk than root damage at this point - as Grow says, the root ball is probably pretty tight.

However, whether you should transplant is trickier. If the plants are really root bound, they may not be able to respond all that well to the new pot environment. And if they don't, you may just lose some time on the auto clock for your trouble. At this stage in their development, a week or so setback for little end benefit could be serious.

If it was me, I would continue with the existing pots. Lots of people on here successfully finish healthy plants in solo cups, so other than plant size and the need for frequent watering, it can work fine.

If you want less hassle watering, and/or larger plants, go for larger pots next time. On the watering issue, you might have a look at autopots. The system can be adapted to whatever type of growing you might have in mind, and it can be set up with zero dependence on electricity.

Good luck with your decision, and let us know how you make out.

 

[Growtogrow]

Hi, and nice looking plants. As @Growtogrow correctly points out, transplanting your ladies should be physically doable, although a challenge. I think that stem and branch damage is a larger risk than root damage at this point - as Grow says, the root ball is probably pretty tight.

However, whether you should transplant is trickier. If the plants are really root bound, they may not be able to respond all that well to the new pot environment. And if they don't, you may just lose some time on the auto clock for your trouble. At this stage in their development, a week or so setback for little end benefit could be serious.

If it was me, I would continue with the existing pots. Lots of people on here successfully finish healthy plants in solo cups, so other than plant size and the need for frequent watering, it can work fine.

If you want less hassle watering, and/or larger plants, go for larger pots next time. On the watering issue, you might have a look at autopots. The system can be adapted to whatever type of growing you might have in mind, and it can be set up with zero dependence on electricity.

Good luck with your decision, and let us know how you make out.

Hey old fart
Hey I always forget nobody runs organic like I do..I forget a lot of people run these damn chemicals and shit and I don't run chemicals...
I forget about them Solo Cup guys and how they can feed them little things... But you just can't do that organically and if you can I sure would like to see somebody do it.
I'm sure somebody probably can Brewing up enough herbs and nutrients in a little pot everyday F that. I ain't that tedious

I like to plant a plant and forget about it. Leave it in the best organic composted soil I got. And forget it As best I can. I don't like to go look at them but about once a day if I don't have to.

But that was good advice to give him. I hope it picks up on it.

 

[Trickiebush]

Cheers both. Great opposite arguments. My issue is I'm uk based, donor being a true guerilla grow and being in my garden, stealth is a must. Planting in higenpots would have been good, but just not applicable here sadly @Growtogrow . I have to move the plant around through the day to keep.the sun on them and they come in at night as uk nights can get cold as F. Luckily this isn't my first rodeo, but you've taken the edge off my concern and reminded me of a valuable lesson, biggernis better with pots hahaha. Especially with autos that dislike transplant.

I'll keep you updated and should be putting up some more diaries now I'm back in.the scene after a few years off. I've been active on other forums ( ssshhhh not as good as here ). I may even show you my contender for the smallest flowing cannabis plant ever , think half an inch tall

 

[Olderfart]

You, of course, @Growtogrow are dead right on pot size with organics, or for that matter, with any soil pre-mix that you expect to do the job with only water through an entire grow. If the OP is on organics, as you say, he/she has a problem.

I may try the organic thing this coming winter if Covid doesn't get me first. I have a kiddy pool of soil cooking as we speak. If I do the organic thing, it will be with a SIP, likely fed by an autopot valve, and likely a hell of a lot bigger than 10 gallons. The object will be water only, but a taste of MC will be the backup.

In my ongoing addition of kiddy pool ingredients, I found, if you can believe it, a 20 liter bag of organic worm castings at the local garden section of a building supply place for ~$20Cdn. At that price I was a bit skeptical, but they were spectacular quality - absolutely nothing in there but worm poop. Beats the heck out of anything I have found online. I thought maybe it was a price mistake, or perhaps old stock. It was the only bag - I will watch with interest to see if they bring in more. They are now dug into the kiddy pool pile, along with a bag of nice mixed composted manure.

The next ingredient will be as many red wigglers as my worm farm friend would like to contribute. The yard worms in there are not that numerous, yet, but I'm sure that they are happy.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

I feel strongly in both directions. Transplant will allow plant to survive if you cannot provide water every day and maybe several times a day if the plant gets bigger. There always is risk in transplanting a big plant. Can you install drip irrigation and run it several times a day on a timer? This timer is really cool but there are inexpensive ones as well.

 

[Olderfart]

Cheers both. Great opposite arguments. My issue is I'm uk based, donor being a true guerilla grow and being in my garden, stealth is a must. Planting in higenpots would have been good, but just not applicable here sadly @Growtogrow . I have to move the plant around through the day to keep.the sun on them and they come in at night as uk nights can get cold as F. Luckily this isn't my first rodeo, but you've taken the edge off my concern and reminded me of a valuable lesson, biggernis better with pots hahaha. Especially with autos that dislike transplant.

I'll keep you updated and should be putting up some more diaries now I'm back in.the scene after a few years off. I've been active on other forums ( ssshhhh not as good as here ). I may even show you my contender for the smallest flowing cannabis plant ever , think half an inch tall

Hey @Trickiebush, sorry to hear that you are in the UK dealing with stupid weed laws. Good luck with it, and with the Covid challenges over there.

The autopot option could be awkward for following the sunshine in the garden and moving indoors. However, depending on the distances involved, it could work reasonably well - a reservoir somewhat central to the space could feed over quite an area because the feed hose can be quite long, I would say 30-40 feet would be perfectly doable if you use 1/2 hose and a couple feet of head. Autopot can supply adapters to neck 1/2 garden hose down to the 1/4" tubing that feeds the valves. My XL kits actually came with the adapters, I did not have to add them to the orders. As far as overnight is concerned, as long as you filled the pot to the max allowed by the autovalve before putting the plant to bed, it would be perfectly happy until hooked up again the next day. A bit of hassle, but perhaps less than manual watering.

Good luck with the watering and the transplant if you do it.

 

[Trickiebush]

Thanks all for your help. Ted, oitmr uk laws are very draconian but I feel the government are watching what's happening in other countries and some local police forces are loosening their approach too.

I'm loving the look of the Alexa controlled dose than mana. Also, I I didn't realise that autopots could have such an extended reach from the reservoir.

I have added a couple of inches of soli mix to the top.of the pot just to add more medium and I will see how we go the next fe3 days. Luckily I can easily access the plan4s all day do it's not the end of the world.

Feed wise I have been using homemade teas like doc leaf, banana, eggshells, willow, and also a mic of our own chicken manure and shoulder compost from a local farm. Oh yes, also a cold press seaweed as root and foliar feed.

This was an emergency grow as the quality at the moment where I am I'd terrible fir meds and the cost has gone up due to covid. I had a full kit up until a couple of years ago when my ex sold all my kit as well as my seed collection that took me years to put together. I had an awesome selection of strains and flavours. I silent mind the kit going as much as the seeds, it was like losing a limb hahaha. So this grow was an emergency grow with 0 to minimal money spent and using some seeds I found at the bottom of a draw just marked ' autos '.. I seem to have 2 different strains here which is no issue. But I'm now on the up and will be back to full growing strength soon. And yes, I'm starting my seed/ genetics collection back up now as and when I can afford it.

 

[Olderfart]

Really sorry to hear about the losses through the ex. Separation/divorce sucks no matter how it transpires, and kids, pets, and stuff like seed collections can make it worse. Good luck with the recovery, and if there is anything we can help with info. wise re. the grow or the seed search, the gang here will be more than glad to help.

Stays safe gro bro, and good luck with the current grow.