Photoperiod Seedstockers GG, Wed Cake, Amnesia + HSO Blue Dream

I would say your right and bc of it being to wet ph drifted I had this just happen to me the other day also my 1 blue dream dried out to much an clawed like I gave to much nitrogen where the other lightened up significantly and I was watering my gelato along with those and it got overly saturated pics below again I've verified mine is ph swing and as a result a lock outView attachment 1245320View attachment 1245321View attachment 1245322View attachment 1245323
Mine looks worse!

Any advice buddy?
 
I tend to also think the soil is to wet and may have effected your PH , Let it dry out , but not totally ,then test the soil to see what your PH is . How much run off do you get after watering ? and how do you deal with it .
 
I tend to also think the soil is to wet and may have effected your PH , Let it dry out , but not totally ,then test the soil to see what your PH is . How much run off do you get after watering ? and how do you deal with it .
How do I know when to water, since that is probably my problem to begin with? I am trying to aim for a light pot. For the healthy Gorilla Glue, I can watch for droop of lower fans but I'm afraid this may be difficult for the unhealthy ones.

I do not know how to test my soil PH. There are some runoff but it gets sucked back in. Any clues?
 
Now I have had a bit more time to think about it . I believe it is a water issue , You say you get a bit of run off and it gets sucked up , Now how much water are you giving each pot [ 10 gallon = 37.8 liter pots ] even with the run off getting sucked up it may be not enough water , which will also play with your Ph . you say when the lower leafs droop you water , that is to late . If you measure the amount of water to run off , use more than you normally use and see what is left after a 1/2 hour then measure what is left in the drip tray you will get a idea how much the soil can take . Then you can refine it from there .
 
Now I have had a bit more time to think about it . I believe it is a water issue , You say you get a bit of run off and it gets sucked up , Now how much water are you giving each pot [ 10 gallon = 37.8 liter pots ] even with the run off getting sucked up it may be not enough water , which will also play with your Ph . you say when the lower leafs droop you water , that is to late . If you measure the amount of water to run off , use more than you normally use and see what is left after a 1/2 hour then measure what is left in the drip tray you will get a idea how much the soil can take . Then you can refine it from there .
Ohh…there is not much concern with that. Reason I'm pretty sure I overwatered is because it only took 3 litres to soak the pot. I don't wait as long as 30 minutes but I let runoff suck back up. Then slowly pour just one cup, then wait to see if the slightest runoff occurs? That will tell me if they are nicely soaked. This time, I also lifted pots a little just to be sure. They are wet for sure.

Now I've researched this watering subject and all points back to a dry cycle for roots to get oxygen. I did not give them that and watered every other day for a couple of weeks.

If underwatered, I'll be seeing something different I believe, especially in the leaves. If you look at the pictures, you can clearly see this is definitely not underwater. The puffiness of the leaves is a giveaway? Heavy dropping fan leaf tips?
 
Now I have had a bit more time to think about it . I believe it is a water issue , You say you get a bit of run off and it gets sucked up , Now how much water are you giving each pot [ 10 gallon = 37.8 liter pots ] even with the run off getting sucked up it may be not enough water , which will also play with your Ph . you say when the lower leafs droop you water , that is to late . If you measure the amount of water to run off , use more than you normally use and see what is left after a 1/2 hour then measure what is left in the drip tray you will get a idea how much the soil can take . Then you can refine it from there .
Also, when do you decide to water? How do you determine? I of course don't wish to aim for drooping lowers each time I water. Perhaps once or twice before getting used to their rhythm? I've heard that it's not harmful? There are of course contradictions to this so what's the real and correct way? In your opinion
 
So I know this probably sounds crazy but I still pick up or tip the pots to see how heavy they are, also over watering is worse than under watering which ive read a few places now and have noticed this with my own grows also. To test soil ph you would need a soil probe and you would make a slurri a bit of dirt and water mixed. Also I have recently read if growing in a living mix you should only be watering maybe a gallon for 10gal pot I forget the exact numbers I will try to find it for you
 
So I know this probably sounds crazy but I still pick up or tip the pots to see how heavy they are, also over watering is worse than under watering which ive read a few places now and have noticed this with my own grows also. To test soil ph you would need a soil probe and you would make a slurri a bit of dirt and water mixed. Also I have recently read if growing in a living mix you should only be watering maybe a gallon for 10gal pot I forget the exact numbers I will try to find it for you
Do you aim for a feather light pot? How do you tell when they are ready for water?
 
you will get to understand how much to water by reading the plant and understanding your soil . As you know I make my own so I know how it works , I would never go feather light as I do not believe it is good for the microbe life . I have found seeing the leafs looking like what is in the photo means for my soil I have the sweet spot with moisture content . First one before watering , take note of the position of the leafs
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After watering . The age is older but they do the same .
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This is what I aim for . you have made amended soil , so it comes down to what you have used and understand how the amendments work . I tend to have very high organic inputs in mine . One thing you can try is make up a pot full of your soil , water it and give it a day or so then check the soil moisture , I know there is no plant in it , but it will give you a idea on the water holding capacity of the soil . at the stage the plants are in the last photo they where getting 1.2 liter a day for 17 liter of soil . There are no hard and fast rules with organic soil we make . Your inputs are different to mine , so it brings it back to understanding your inputs . Just keep at it mate and you will work it out . :thumbsup:
 
you will get to understand how much to water by reading the plant and understanding your soil . As you know I make my own so I know how it works , I would never go feather light as I do not believe it is good for the microbe life . I have found seeing the leafs looking like what is in the photo means for my soil I have the sweet spot with moisture content . First one before watering , take note of the position of the leafs
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After watering . The age is older but they do the same . View attachment 1245456
This is what I aim for . you have made amended soil , so it comes down to what you have used and understand how the amendments work . I tend to have very high organic inputs in mine . One thing you can try is make up a pot full of your soil , water it and give it a day or so then check the soil moisture , I know there is no plant in it , but it will give you a idea on the water holding capacity of the soil . at the stage the plants are in the last photo they where getting 1.2 liter a day for 17 liter of soil . There are no hard and fast rules with organic soil we make . Your inputs are different to mine , so it brings it back to understanding your inputs . Just keep at it mate and you will work it out . :thumbsup:
Seems like you also look for the droop. Thank you buddy!
 
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