Seebeedee, I do like Seedsman and like ordering from them. I am sure I will order from them again. I would say they are asking way too much for the Seedsman brand seeds. I consider them good quality generic seeds. Would think Seed stockers is a better quality overall. But that is my opinion. I looked at their sight a couple of times over the last few months thinking of ordering even though being in the States it is a little riskier right now. I have ordered from Seed City as well a few times with no problems. I have also ordered elsewhere as well. For the most part, freebies and discounts are standard in the industry, some places rip you off for shipping. I guess it depends on what you are looking for in freebies. I know seeds are pretty pricey right now. But it is still bit of a shock sometimes. I don't want to do a quantitative breakdown, but I thought they were higher on some things I was interested in. Watermelon Zkittles $42 Seedsman $34 Seedcity. for 3pack I am cheap, so I notice these things. I am sure there are products that are cheaper at Seedsman than other places including Seed city. I remember buying seeds a few years ago at Seedsman and with all the discounts and freebies it was like $5 average a seed. So, yes it is a bit of a shock and something that I notice.