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is it this one?Breeding is complicated. .. you need to have a soul purpose in mind with an end game in plan. Pollen chucking is easy throw some pollen and see what it sticks to. Most of us start out seed making or pollen chucking and wind up breeders some of us never make a real label but are still excellent breeders. Breeding takes years of understanding and even more time to build a label. Get the breeders Bible it will build a foundation to build from.