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[WildBill]

quickest flip? dependent on the strain and speed of growth, but as a general rule, once they hit 4-5 nodes... imho, if you SoG them,

personally I like 4 pots in my 70x70, and to train them flat and out from the 5th node, remove the 1st node branchlets, topped, then top the 8 branches, give them a week or so too grow out, flip, train to fill the horizontal plane and then let them grow vertically, 16 mains per plant, 64 in total. takes longer than autos and uses more leccy though, this is my main reason to try autos, i expect to save 30% costs on a full grow of autos over photo's.

First off, let me quantify what I'm about to say. I am not heavily concerned with the quantity of cannabis that I produced, but the quality! On the girls that I train, I focus on developing main colas and eliminate branching that won't produce the quality of cannabis that I want. This eliminates/reduces larf and allows the plant to direct the energy to developing the main colas.

To be honest with you, using your method on photos will probably get you slightly better quality and more cannabis than with autos.
With autos, I top once, Spread out the branches and hope the hormones do their work on the side branches. That usually gives me a satisfactory amount of Branches that could develop into main colas. In Regular Earthboxes, I've planted to one end of the box and just took a pull on the main cola towards the empty end. The pulling over of the main cola gives the other branches time to catch up and it seems to break the main cola dominance, so the hormones get more evenly distributed. Best used with your larger sized auto girls. I think ya do have to pick winners and losers more with this method, but you get more mains as the end result. I think this method would work really well with photos.
And there are some autos that just do not care for training! In some it might be minor and then others you see quite a drastic reaction. I have one currently in this run that absolutely did not care for the training I gave her. I have never had one with quite the reaction I saw from her, definitely not the norm!


I'm definitely not trying to discourage you! I'm just trying to be a bit realistic. I really don't think you're gonna save 30% on your expenses. You do have a shorter daily light cycle with photos. With modern led lighting, The expense to operate them has declined. Now you still have to maintain your grow room environment. While I haven't set it down to paper and actually calculated the expenses, I would assume though, that controlling and maintaining the environment is a larger expense than operating the lights. So you could save some money if your entire grow period is shorter.
Now, the bottom line is this. Which method has the least expensive gram per monitary unit.
Given my preface, I really don't think you're going to see that much of a savings going to autos........ If any at all

The Earthbox laying over method Is definitely something I want to explore with photos.

 

[Corum59]

First off, let me quantify what I'm about to say. I am not heavily concerned with the quantity of cannabis that I produced, but the quality! On the girls that I train, I focus on developing main colas and eliminate branching that won't produce the quality of cannabis that I want. This eliminates/reduces larf and allows the plant to direct the energy to developing the main colas.

To be honest with you, using your method on photos will probably get you slightly better quality and more cannabis than with autos.
With autos, I top once, Spread out the branches and hope the hormones do their work on the side branches. That usually gives me a satisfactory amount of Branches that could develop into main colas. In Regular Earthboxes, I've planted to one end of the box and just took a pull on the main cola towards the empty end. The pulling over of the main cola gives the other branches time to catch up and it seems to break the main cola dominance, so the hormones get more evenly distributed. Best used with your larger sized auto girls. I think ya do have to pick winners and losers more with this method, but you get more mains as the end result. I think this method would work really well with photos.
And there are some autos that just do not care for training! In some it might be minor and then others you see quite a drastic reaction. I have one currently in this run that absolutely did not care for the training I gave her. I have never had one with quite the reaction I saw from her, definitely not the norm!


I'm definitely not trying to discourage you! I'm just trying to be a bit realistic. I really don't think you're gonna save 30% on your expenses. You do have a shorter daily light cycle with photos. With modern led lighting, The expense to operate them has declined. Now you still have to maintain your grow room environment. While I haven't set it down to paper and actually calculated the expenses, I would assume though, that controlling and maintaining the environment is a larger expense than operating the lights. So you could save some money if your entire grow period is shorter.
Now, the bottom line is this. Which method has the least expensive gram per monitary unit.
Given my preface, I really don't think you're going to see that much of a savings going to autos........ If any at all

The Earthbox laying over method Is definitely something I want to explore with photos.

Sounds about right... but, well, you know, gotta give it a go and see what can be done... I have Photo seeds that I can turn back too at anytime,
looking at my previous grows and the electricty used, I expect quite a saving on a 100 day Auto grow, and you are right of course, Grams of quality weed against total cost is really the only indicator of success.

this current attempt with auto's is a learning curve, I will try a few more, see what I learn, see if I can do better, and see how it works out, my only real issue is that I expect the price of electricity to jump massively in the current energy/world wide political status, and its already twice the price of a couple of years ago.

 

[St. Tom]

Here are my 2 front macncrack I've now highered the left side girl on a stool to get her closer to the light as these will at 8 week of flower in 2 day so she will appreciate the extra light as the back black Lebanon girls are super tall also these will finish before the front girls ..

 

[St. Tom]

Another one just a mix and match from the 4x4 and I was just thinking these black Lebanon back girls will be finished soon I recon let me know your thoughts

 

[DOA]

Another one just a mix and match from the 4x4 and I was just thinking these black Lebanon back girls will be finished soon I recon let me know your thoughts
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Not long now, I see the IG account is getting some views now

 

[St. Tom]

Not long now, I see the IG account is getting some views now

yes its really picked up now also bro id love to share some of your creations I just need some good pics and a description

 

[EP3]

Looks the business brother. Master at work. Can smell them from here.
EP3

 

[St. Tom]

Today we have the lovely Kerosene Krash girls at day 56 of flower or 8 weeks I recon another week what do you guys think . @Antonio_DutchPassion There's no one better to ask than you

 

[Qbgrower]

Another weeks looks about right to me too.

I bet those buds are rock solid!

Qb

 

[St. Tom]

Another weeks looks about right to me too.

I bet those buds are rock solid!

Qb

to the last bunch i ran these look more done at their age and yes mate they already feel chunky plus thanks for all the support