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[The Elvis]

The ranch is looking so nice... I'm loving the remodel on the shed, and you know id be on hubbys side about the shop... But in this case its bit to nice to be a shop..

 

[Mossy]

Aunty, that unit looks pretty nice, but you're still working with charcoal and foil wrapped/Al trays for the wood chips, with direct contact on the coals,.. maintaining temps over time is a pain, and keeping the chips from overheating and flaming up is an issue too,.. just takes more practice and effort is all! Gas is sooo luxuriously easy,... ..working on some recipes for you now! BBL,...

Yeah Waira..that is what I heard...unfortunately I bought on what they would post to spain...
If I can get hubby Interested in smoking..I'll look for a gas one for an upgrade...

He is Loving the slow roast ribs..but I'm sure they would taste even better smoked......although saying that the molasses/coffee ones do have a smokey taste.

I'm loving the remodel on the shed, and you know id be on hubbys side about the shop... But in this case its bit to nice to be a shop..

Cheers The Elvis..it is going to be hubbys work room/garage..but I'm sure it looks too nice to be a scabby garage.....it could be a nice self contained studio..if it had plumbing and electric....hubbies friend is supposed to be sorting the lecky for us..once all the indoor plaster has dried out.

 

[The Elvis]

Oh you guys are gonna love smoking meat!! look around for all the good wood now.. you will need a wood pile.. Cherry, apple, and peach wood are some of the ones i like Mesquite wood is also very good.
look for the old dead pieces with moss growing on them.. ahhhh the smell when ya bust that wood open with an ax for the first time ... Aunty when you guys start smoking meat you will start on Friday and cook on into Saturday.. I smoke for about 22 hours.. I love it!! My smoker has rusted from rain.. I need another one..

 

[Mossy]

Oh you guys are gonna love smoking meat!! look around for all the good wood now.. you will need a wood pile.. Cherry, apple, and peach wood are some of the ones i like Mesquite wood is also very good.
look for the old dead pieces with moss growing on them.. ahhhh the smell when ya bust that wood open with an ax for the first time ... Aunty when you guys start smoking meat you will start on Friday and cook on into Saturday.. I smoke for about 22 hours.. I love it!! My smoker has rusted from rain.. I need another one..

Do you know hubby burned the apple wood..... Told him..his friend who smokes told him too.

How do you prep the wood from branches....the stuff I have seen to buy is basically saw dust..so do you have a chipper..?

Just Think of the amount of fruit wood I'm growing....I can have a wood pile...

 

[The Elvis]

I chop my own wood.. or buy it chopped it needs to be dead over a year so its soft.. broken down by nature.. but dry..aged..


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[Mossy]

I chop my own wood.. or buy it chopped it needs to be dead over a year so its soft.. broken down by nature.. but dry..aged..

Cheers..I'll give that a whirl..got enough space for a wood pile..weather it for a year..

 

[The Elvis]

Cheers..I'll give that a whirl..got enough space for a wood pile..weather it for a year..

See how they keep it off the ground? this is enough wood for many years..


keeping it between trees is a common way of keeping wood also..

 

[Waira]

:smoking: .... Aunty, love the hound pics! They certainly enjoy the Ranchette and all the activity,...your Pharaoh girl really does look like she's trotting on the rope-line- graceful, elegant dogs are they...bet she's wicked fast too!

....Woooow! what a transformation in that shed- excellent! I like the interior color... Did I miss what plans you have for it? Best of all, you'll have your poly' back soon!

..... Thank you for getting my stomach all worked up 2 hours before dinner! Are you doing the ribs in the oven? One nice trick is to grill them fast and hot, just to put some quick brown on them, then off to finish in the oven ..... Peppers! Hottest I can take is a bit of the Habanero family, like the Bonnets... there's a almost fruity-? flavor dancing around in there, but beyond a point, the heat just takes over the taste buds and beats them senseless! I found a hot sauce here that has the Hab's tamed enough that you can put on a good splash to get lots of flavor without dying-
...So, you have that grill/smoker you showed earlier? If so, I'll see about posting up what the BBQ book says about working with that type unit,... Okay, here are some recipes for a couple sauces, rubs, mops, ribs-- which will work fine on pork shoulder too,... most will have penciled-in note, modifications, and/or alternate ideas for spicing... a couple of the rib recipes don't need actual smoking either!

>>> Woods for smoking: ~~~~ ... ... this steak sauce is superb! messy side notes, I know..cumin is fine if you like it, other spices are just ideas to try; a little saute' onion/garlic isa nice addition- ... crushed/course grind is best; amazing on steak- the juices over mash or rice is a meal alone!- ... Cajun set yo' tung ahn fi-yoh!! (file' optional)- .... one of the smokeless ones: .....also smokeless: this Asian style one is awesome; if fresh plums aren't around, jam+hoisin can substitute, just reduce sugar amount; 5-spice optional-- ....(*pic limit-?)

 

[Waira]

.... ... here's one that is a no-sauce wonder! ..the fresh ground seeds do all the talking ...(ignore the cajun spice note on this) ,.....
...there are a few others I'll have to hand-write down for you,... do you like teriyaki? and can you get sake'? ...hope you and Hubby enjoy these!

 

[Dr Fluff]

Finger Limes.....Different.

One tree I wanted to fill my orchard list was an ordinary lime..and I have had a hard time getting one.
When we went to get the last avocado at the co-op today..what was the first thing I saw..Limes...

Hubby was in a good fettle..I Think he realised he has been a PITA for a few days while he has been off the drink..so it was me reward..I picked one..he said get two.....we are starting to realise fruit trees are like the animals that went into the Arc..you need them all to be in twos to pollenate each other..

We got two Super green fig trees..massive trunks.
After tasting all of the figs I do prefer the green ones.
It is a texture thing..as the black figs ripen the skin can go a bit slimey..I prefer the bite through on the greens.

So now I have two greens..a black and a yellow.

We got the 3 rd cherry too..we have the yellow/pink one..the mid red..and the black now.....one of each that they sell.

We Love cherries... ..and we got a Strange thing.....the farmer down the road that has a tree that puts out a thing like a brown plumb..but it has a texture like a pear..it was really unusual.
We didn't know what it was..but we saw one and bought it..

I'm going to have to google it....look at this for a name..Azufaifo is the Spanish and zizifus jujuna is supposed to be the English..I've never heard of them..

If you can get hold of some finger lime trees you'll be sorted , currently you can buy 50g in the UK for £14.99
The little bits in a citrus fruit are called "Juice Vesicals" which are surrounded by a "Juice Sac" these little juice vesicals/sacs are what makes up the interior of each segment.
Finger Limes (Citrus australasica) have "Juice Vesicals"which are very readily separated and are sometimes called "Lime Caviar".
Commercial production of Finger limes only started in the 1990's and since then Finger Limes have become very popular in high end restaurants.
The Finger Limes are a tropical sub story plant with spiny thorns (many citrus have thorns) and can grow from 2M to 7M tall.
There is a high demand for fruiting stock and currently most stock is from wild sources and then grafted on to a standardized citrus root stock.


Ahh grass hopper you have a "Chinese Date" aka Jujube.(zizifus jujuna)


Ziziphus jujuba - Mill.

Common Name Jujube
Family Rhamnaceae
Synonyms Z. sativa. Z. vulgaris. Z. zizyphus. (L.)Karsten. Rhamnus zizyphus.
Known Hazards

Caution in diabetics on allopathic medication [301].
Habitats Dry gravelly or stony slopes of hills and mountains[74].
Range E. Asia - China, Japan.
Edibility Rating

Medicinal Rating

Care

Summary

Physical Characteristics

Ziziphus jujuba is a deciduous Tree growing to 10 m (32ft) by 7 m (23ft) at a fast rate.
It is hardy to zone (UK) 6. It is in flower from Apr to May, and the seeds ripen in October. The flowers are hermaphrodite (have both male and female organs) and are pollinated by Insects.The plant is self-fertile.

Suitable for: light (sandy), medium (loamy) and heavy (clay) soils, prefers well-drained soil and can grow in nutritionally poor soil. Suitable pH: acid, neutral and basic (alkaline) soils and can grow in very alkaline soils.
It cannot grow in the shade. It prefers dry or moist soil and can tolerate drought.

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Habitats
Woodland Garden Secondary; Sunny Edge; Dappled Shade; Hedge;
Edible Uses
Edible Parts: Fruit; Leaves.
Edible Uses: Coffee.

Fruit - raw or cooked[1, 2, 3, 100, 158]. Mealy and sweet[46]. A sourish-sweet flavour[174]. The fruit can be eaten fresh, dried like dates or cooked in puddings, cakes, breads, jellies, soups etc[183]. The dried fruit has the nicest taste[11, 132]. The fruits are often left to become wrinkled and spongy, which increases their sweetness, and are then eaten fresh or cooked[238]. The dried fruit can also be ground into a powder. This powder is used in the preparation of 'kochujang', a fermented hot pepper-soybean paste that resembles miso[183]. Fruits are about 13mm in diameter[194] and contain one or two seeds[238]. Average yields from wild trees in the Himalayas are 9.5kg per year[194]. The fruit contains about 8.7% sugars, 2.6% protein, 1.4% ash, 1.7% pectin and 1.3% tannin[194]. The fruit is about 25mm long, though it can be larger in cultivated varieties[200]. The fruit can be used as a coffee substitute[183]. Leaves - cooked. A famine food, they are only used when all else fails[179]. A nutritional analysis is available[218].
Composition
Figures in grams (g) or miligrams (mg) per 100g of food.
Fruit (Dry weight)

• 350 Calories per 100g
• Water : 0%
• Protein: 7.3g; Fat: 1.2g; Carbohydrate: 84g; Fibre: 4g; Ash: 3g;
• Minerals - Calcium: 130mg; Phosphorus: 168mg; Iron: 3.5mg; Magnesium: 0mg; Sodium: 12mg; Potassium: 1050mg; Zinc: 0mg;
• Vitamins - A: 125mg; Thiamine (B1): 0.1mg; Riboflavin (B2): 0.18mg; Niacin: 2.8mg; B6: 0mg; C: 300mg;
• Reference: [ 218]
• Notes: The figures given here are the median of a range given in the report.

Medicinal Uses


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Anodyne; Antidote; Astringent; Cancer; Diuretic; Emollient; Expectorant; Hypnotic; Narcotic; Pectoral; Poultice;
Refrigerant; Sedative; Skin; Stomachic; Tonic.

Jujube is both a delicious fruit and an effective herbal remedy. It aids weight gain, improves muscular strength and increases stamina[254]. In Chinese medicine it is prescribed as a tonic to strengthen liver function[254]. Japanese research has shown that jujube increases immune-system resistance. In one clinical trial in China 12 patients with liver complaints were given jujube, peanuts and brown sugar nightly. In four weeks their liver function had improved[254]. Antidote, diuretic, emollient, expectorant[11, 61, 174, 178, 194]. The dried fruits contain saponins, triterpenoids and alkaloids[279]. They are anodyne, anticancer, pectoral, refrigerant, sedative, stomachic, styptic and tonic[4, 176, 218]. They are considered to purify the blood and aid digestion[240]. They are used internally in the treatment of a range of conditions including chronic fatigue, loss of appetite, diarrhoea, pharyngitis, bronchitis, anaemia, irritability and hysteria[176, 238, 279]. The seed contains a number of medically active compounds including saponins, triterpenes, flavonoids and alkaloids[279]. It is hypnotic, narcotic, sedative, stomachic and tonic[147, 176, 218]. It is used internally in the treatment of palpitations, insomnia, nervous exhaustion, night sweats and excessive perspiration[176, 238]. The root is used in the treatment of dyspepsia[218]. A decoction of the root has been used in the treatment of fevers[4, 240]. The root is made into a powder and applied to old wounds and ulcers[240]. The leaves are astringent and febrifuge[4, 218]. They are said to promote the growth of hair[218]. They are used to form a plaster in the treatment of strangury[240]. The plant is a folk remedy for anaemia, hypertonia, nephritis and nervous diseases[218]. The plant is widely used in China as a treatment for burns[218].
Other Uses
Charcoal; Fuel; Hedge; Hedge; Wood.

Plants can be grown as a hedge[178]. Wood - dense, hard, compact, tough. Used for turnery, agricultural implements etc[74, 146, 158]. It makes an excellent fuel[146] and a good charcoal[158].

Cultivation details
Succeeds in most soils so long as they are well-drained[3, 200]. Prefers an open loam and a hot dry position[1, 3]. Succeeds in an alkaline soil[200]. Plants are fast growing, even in poor soils[146]. Plants are hardy to about -20°c[200]. Another report says that they are hardy to about -30°c when fully dormant[160]. The jujube is often cultivated in warm temperate zones for its edible fruit, there are many named varieties[50, 183]. The trees need a hot dry summer if they are to fruit well, which rather restricts their potential in a country like Britain[238, K]. The tree spreads by root suckers and self-sowing, often forming dense thickets. Where the climate suits it, the plant can escape from cultivation and become an invasive and problematic weed[274]. Trees are resistant to most pests and diseases[160]. Responds well to coppicing[146]. Trees form a deep taproot and should be planted into their permanent positions as soon as possible[200]. Fast growing and quick to mature, it can fruit in 3 - 4 years from seed[200].

Propagation
Seed - best sown in a cold frame as soon as it is ripe. Stored seed requires 3 months warm then 3 months cold stratification[113]. Germination should take place in the first spring, though it might take another 12 months. Prick out the seedlings into individual pots when they are large enough to handle and grow them on in a cold frame for at least their first winter. Plant out in early summer. Root cuttings in a greenhouse in the winter[200]. Best results are achieved if a temperature of 5 - 10°c can be maintained[238]. Cuttings of mature wood of the current season's growth, November to January in a frame[238]. Division of suckers in the dormant season[174]. They can be planted out direct into their permanent positions if required.