Retired Live Stoners Gossip April May 2017

[trailanimal]

 

[budelee]

Very true @L0wbob2017 . Quality parts can make or break a light. We stand behind our product the best we can with our 5 year warranty.

Outstanding Warranty !! Did you say "bumper to bumper"?

 

[L0wbob2017]

Great question @1939bear. We have definitely looked into COB technology and the possibility of adding it to our light. I think the technology continues to get better & i've seen a lot of great grows using the technology.


I actually have a bit of experience testing COB LED's in the past. Great output with a very full spectrum. Here is the spectrum test I did in a past life on a new COB LED panel currently on the market:

While COB can grow plants, with all of the energy wasted in the green spectrum they aren’t necessarily the most efficient. White LEDs only produce 40% of usable light and the rest is wasted in power consumption and heat. I believe mixing LED diodes that target the nanometer (nm) ranges plants love, is the most effective and efficient way to grow plants. We feel that COB's can be effective if they are used sparingly as supplemental lighting within an LED panel or specifically for seedling and clone development.

But if we get enough demand, we may add them in the future. It's ultimately what our customers ask for.

Next thing i wanted to know is what do you think about UV-supplementals?
At the moment UV-A or even UV-B LED's are very expensive, got a short life and their intensity ( or better said UV-output ) isnt comparable to a UV-radiating tube.
But once they can be produced cheap, with a longer life-time and better UV-output, are you gonna plan to implement UV-LED's into your products?

 

[St. Tom]

I would also like to know your recomendation for a 4x4 size tent I use a 600w hps at the min in a cool tube

 

[trailanimal]

Wish I knew. I'm actually based out of Tampa, FL. It's freakin HOT here!

Most of our executive team is out in HI.

sounds about the right, the big boys on an island paradise

 

[TheMongol]

i ask this because a friend got a P600 and the light output is crazy. I created my own DIY light and used 3W


thank you a lot sir! that was some good information alrdy.
I understand that you cant share all of your secrets.
I also used a constant current driver but limited it at 700 mA. As a driver i took a meanwell that also could be run at 100 - 240V.
There was just such a big difference between the "noname" 3W LED's i ordered for my first prototype ( it had to be cheap ) and the 3W LED's from the P600.

What a friend, bud? Hahaha

 

[PlatinumLEDTom]

@PlatinumLEDTom , earlier there was talk about lighting up small areas, like 2'x4', what's your recommendation?

What up @trailanimal? My top recommendation for a 2 x 4 would definitely be a P600, but make sure you have enough height! THat light is intense!

You can't go wrong with the P300 or P450 for that space either. I'm confident you'll be happy with the result with any one of those lights.. Remember, as a good grower you can expect to get around a gram per watt. More wattage more dank and stank!

 

[trailanimal]

Outstanding Warranty !! Did you say "bumper to bumper"?

good point budelee
killer warranty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TheMongol]

OK guys...can somebody tag me in where it started?

@L0wbob2017 @trailanimal @PlatinumLEDTom

 

[L0wbob2017]

Very true @L0wbob2017 . Quality parts can make or break a light. We stand behind our product the best we can with our 5 year warranty.

I think for the LED's you could easy go up to 7 years ( LOL i talk here like 5 years is nothing but it is crazy long!!! )
If you think about a 18h light cycle thats 46k hours in 7 years. Seems fair to me thinking about a lifetime of 50k hours per LED.
Maybe the driver will get some damage first haha