Of all those old seeds only one orange diesel and one KVS were strong enough to live, and of course the kvs turned out to be a male. But since kvs was one of my wives favorite plants and since this one is obviously a survivor I've gathered some pollen to save. This just goes to show that long term seed storage needs to be done in freezer or fridge some of these seeds are years old and at room temperature storage their germ rates have gone way down. So I've got one orange diesel in a 7 gallon square pot and some saved kvs pollen bUT now I need to start some of my new Mephisto genetics!