Please help with my white widow auto

[blackthumb5]

This plant was looking great until 2 days ago. Growing in 5 gal fabric pot with natures living soil and OF/HF. Using HLG 300L V2 and mars hydro 1000. Temps about 80 humidity around 30%. Gave 1/4 dose of flower fuel a week ago. Water with RO water mixed with 1/5 tap water that has sat out all night. Pictures are yesterday and today. PH seems really good. I put in 6.5 and get out 6.3 - 6.4 ish. I am a first time grower and really getting discouraged. I have 4 plants and going in this living soil. One has given me tons of trouble, and looks terrible, but the other 3 were looking great until this one started going downhill yesterday. I think some of my trouble was giving calmag with my RO because I read it needed it. I have since learned from my mistake and stopped doing that a month ago. Yesterday I watered with plain water until runoff thinking it might be an excess of something. I would really appreciate any advice on what my next steps should be.

 

[Proph]

Looks like NLS club has a new member.. The hurts to see.. I've spent soo many hours trying to help growers who are in the exact same situation. Let me start my saying it's not all your fault. It's simply you being a new grower, and following something you read online or saw on youtube.. Im going to be honest.. There's nothing you can do to fix the issues at this point. The plant is in flower, it's too late for fixes. Your goal now is to simply make it to harvest. I dont know what week the plant is on, but I'd do water only until harvest. It's not easy for me to explain all of the issues with NLS right now because I feel like thats all ive been going for the past 2 months.. If you use the site search box and search for NLS or natures living soil, you'll see what I mean.. No one will admit where they read or heard to use this stuff and how to use it.. But they all premixed the nls or layered it, and most mixed two different soils as well.. And all now have threads in the infirmary. You just picked a bad source to follow on your 1st grow. It happens. Don't beat yourself up over It or get discouraged.. Now that your here, you can just ask first.. All of us here have made every mistake you have made, and will ever make, lol. Use us to help you avoid as many as possible.

But in short, we (myself and those on site using nls) have learned that this product is far too hot for autos and way too much is being added to the pots. It's also a slow release or time release product.. Zero transparency. No ratios listed.. It goes on and on..

So yeah.. Plan to Use water only and kinda limp to the finish line.. Hopefully you're not too finacially invested in it and make other plans for your next grow. Feel free to ask as many questions as you have! Im happy to try and answer them!

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

The bigger immediate problem is your RH is much to low for 80°F it should be in the range of 60% to 70%.

At 30% RH the stomate on the leaves will close to protect the leave from drying out. This in turn stops the flow of nutrients and eventually the plant will die. Get that RH up.

30% is so bad it is not even on the chart.

 

[blackthumb5]

@Proph These plants are on day 56. I jumped right in, and I have learned a LOT these past 2 months. Unfortunately last month I split my last pound of NLS between two 3 gallon pots and started some seeds, so I have 2 night owls about a month old in NLS as well. I had not had any problems up until then, and some really great looking plants. I landed on NLS after searching "super soil" on amazon and seeing some stellar reviews. I appreciate the response. My next grow will be 70% coco and 30% perlite. I would love to do hydro as it seems much easier to correct any problems, but I live in southern AZ and already spend hundreds of dollars keeping my house 78 degrees in the summer. From what I read anything with a reservoir needs to be around 68 degrees and I don't want to buy a chiller so anything I grow I must stick to hand watering.

@Mañ'O'Green I just put a humidifier in and set it to 60%. I thought I was supposed to do much lower humidity in flower. It's really dry here and my 1.2 gallon humidifier needs refilled every 12 hours. I will look into a larger one.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

@Proph These plants are on day 56. I jumped right in, and I have learned a LOT these past 2 months. Unfortunately last month I split my last pound of NLS between two 3 gallon pots and started some seeds, so I have 2 night owls about a month old in NLS as well. I had not had any problems up until then, and some really great looking plants. I landed on NLS after searching "super soil" on amazon and seeing some stellar reviews. I appreciate the response. My next grow will be 70% coco and 30% perlite. I would love to do hydro as it seems much easier to correct any problems, but I live in southern AZ and already spend hundreds of dollars keeping my house 78 degrees in the summer. From what I read anything with a reservoir needs to be around 68 degrees and I don't want to buy a chiller so anything I grow I must stick to hand watering.

@Mañ'O'Green I just put a humidifier in and set it to 60%. I thought I was supposed to do much lower humidity in flower. It's really dry here and my 1.2 gallon humidifier needs refilled every 12 hours. I will look into a larger one.

This is the one I use and they make a bigger one.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

@Proph These plants are on day 56. I jumped right in, and I have learned a LOT these past 2 months. Unfortunately last month I split my last pound of NLS between two 3 gallon pots and started some seeds, so I have 2 night owls about a month old in NLS as well. I had not had any problems up until then, and some really great looking plants. I landed on NLS after searching "super soil" on amazon and seeing some stellar reviews. I appreciate the response. My next grow will be 70% coco and 30% perlite. I would love to do hydro as it seems much easier to correct any problems, but I live in southern AZ and already spend hundreds of dollars keeping my house 78 degrees in the summer. From what I read anything with a reservoir needs to be around 68 degrees and I don't want to buy a chiller so anything I grow I must stick to hand watering.

@Mañ'O'Green I just put a humidifier in and set it to 60%. I thought I was supposed to do much lower humidity in flower. It's really dry here and my 1.2 gallon humidifier needs refilled every 12 hours. I will look into a larger one.

OMG Coco is a very unforgiving Hydro media. Do your research first! You would do well to go Living Soil First!

 

[blackthumb5]

OMG Coco is a very unforgiving Hydro media. Do your research first! You would do well to go Living Soil First!

What would you recommend?

 

[BoCoGrow]

This is the one I use and they make a bigger one.

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Yeah, I think I'm going to have to upgrade my humidifier. Tired of waking up in the AM, go in to check on the plants before lights out, and discover that the humidifier ran out of water during the night and the RH is out of range.

Also, I tried coco my first round, and hadn't done the research. It was a disaster. Immediately switched to soil.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

What would you recommend?

@blackthumb5 If my back would allow me to move heavy pots I would go with earthbox as a method of growing. It looks to be a great way to do living soil. @TxRebel/Mark @WildBill and @Proph are some of our best TLS growers and you could get a real head-start by studying their grows.

 

[Fermented_Fruitz]

Yeah, I think I'm going to have to upgrade my humidifier. Tired of waking up in the AM, go in to check on the plants before lights out, and discover that the humidifier ran out of water during the night and the RH is out of range.

Also, I tried coco my first round, and hadn't done the research. It was a disaster. Immediately switched to soil.

Do u have a way to adjust your temps?? Cooling it down some should hold more moisture in the air and keep u from needing to refill it so often!
And as MoG said earthbox is def good for living soil and makes watering quick and easy cuz has an internal reservoir u just keep full! If u wanted to do coco later tho autopots may be better cuz they work with both! Never seen EB with coco but never searched it either TBH! Any questions feel free to ask!