PLEASE, help me build a No-Till mix

[WildBill]

i don't pH it, I just like taking note of what pH it has before using it... my water can go really crazy. I did add the bit of EWC lechate since it was 0 ppm water and thought it would be better if it had some minerals.

Oh ok! Good deal!

 

[elcoloan]

Update
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The soon-to-be-reversed clone seems to have already adapted to the 3 gal pot so I will begin the CS spraying of it today.

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CS treatment has begun...
Day 1 - sprayed all the plant with 39.7 ppm. Sprayed it outside the tent, put it back in and put the lamp all the way to the top of the tent. PAR meter reads 100 ppfd at tallest top right now. Will bring closer... to at least 300 ppfd once the CS dries out. lamp is set to just around 22 Watts.

A few pics...

Before spraying

After spraying

 

[Peacefulgarden]

They looking better or am I just imagining things?

 

[Peacefulgarden]

Oh no. The RAW was cheaper option, but surely not optimal. What I have is MUCH higher quality in powder form derived naturally, but still processed and fully soluble and will not precipitate out of solution. It's pretty hard to find, but it does seem to be quite cost-effective.
One product that I used early on and used in my lawn is a micronized Biochar/humic acid made by The Andersons company. It's called HumiChar. It works wonders in my silly low humus sandy soil I have at my new home.
Amazon product

It feels like your trying to sell me something lol. That’s so funny. I’m not saying you are but it feels that way every post where you are talking about a product lol

Anyways, that doesn’t look much better to me. Doesn’t even say what it’s derived from and not allowed to sell in at least a few states, pretty questionable imo. Also, reading the q and a on amazon, plus some other stuff on humic in general, it’s not gonna do much for pH.

 

[WildBill]

It feels like your trying to sell me something lol. That’s so funny. I’m not saying you are but it feels that way every post where you are talking about a product lol

Anyways, that doesn’t look much better to me. Doesn’t even say what it’s derived from and not allowed to sell in at least a few states, pretty questionable imo. Also, reading the q and a on amazon, plus some other stuff on humic in general, it’s not gonna do much for pH.

LOL! Ok.

 

[Peacefulgarden]

I think best option is to just amend the soil with Epsom salts. I never hear of people doing it for pH but I was just doing some testing and it does bring pH down .

Gonna wait for tomorrow to test some more testing I.e. how much needed to bring a gallon of soil 1.0 pH. and how easy it washes out and how much run off waterings does it last for.

edit: more details in my journal and still working on it, should have decent idea tomorrow but it seems like gypsum is also really good to bring down pH and also can be water in or whatever else it seems

 

[elcoloan]

They looking better or am I just imagining things?

Yes, I agree the leaves look better and it was what I was expecting. This pheno seems very delicate and curls the edges of its top/new leaves in too humid substrates and also in substrates with high EC, specially under low lighting conditions. But after some time in better substrate the leaves fix themselves and this is happening to this plant being reversed so all seems on track. And luckily after these days of spraying I don't see any negative signs from the CS spraying which was my biggest concern, so all good there as well.

 

[elcoloan]

UPDATE

Day 5 of CS spraying. After day 1 I've only sprayed bud sites, but still with CS at 39.7 ppm.
watered both the plant I'm reversing and the mum. first one got 500 ml of water at 0.38 EC and 6..34 pH (tap water 0.2 EC, 6.54 ph, + BTi), mum got just about 250 ml. last watering of both was 5 days ago. did a bit of training on the reversing plant. Plan to take some cutting of the mum soon.

Pics from today after watering:

Mum (and backup clone) in veg tent, under desk lamp 9 watt LED:

Reversing plant in flower tent, under LED grow light dimmed to 22 Watts:

 

[elcoloan]

Today is day 12 of CS application (day 11 of 12/12 photoperiod) for the the clone in the main tent. Light is still at 22 Watts there, put it a bit closer last week and tops are getting 330 - 410 ppfd. The mum plant in the veg tent is getting 200 ppfd at closest part to the light. Should be watering both tomorrow, plan to do it with aloe after top dressing a bit with malted barley.

Some pics from today... CS treated plant:

Mum:

 

[elcoloan]

Today is day 20 of CS application (day 19 of 12/12 photoperiod) for the the clone in the main tent. Until last sunday I had been spraying it once every day just as soon as lights turn on using 39.8 ppms CS, and yesterday I increased to 49.5 ppms. Saw the first tiny male sac yesterday, and today there are more, but still all of them are very small. Plant has begun showing slight N def, so will do next watering with good amounts of EWC leachate and maybe top dress with more of the mix it is growing in -still have like 20 gal of it left. The mum in the same mix but at much lower DLI inside the other tent is still healthy green all over.

Pics from today... battey died before taking pics of the mum.

The reversed clone: