Dutch Passion Parup Pa Pooo.... The Triumphal Return of The King....

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I've ran out of rep!!

Mannn - there's something magical about that plasma light! Look at those beauties grooooow!
Loving the threads - always fun to see a King Jorilla Ganjamoto grow (or two)

Fingers crossed for you (pfffft)

^^

 

[Mr ganjamoto]

Salutations all....

Mr Grim Prince of Reefer has stated he is unable to view the earlier photos of the malnourished Princess Extreme... so here they are again hopefully for all to see.... Plus a bonus one you lucky peasants....








The King is aware he is repeating the previous declaration and notice how the tips of the new growth are lighter in colour and narrowed.... The lady is asking for more trace elements..... so the King administered Canna Mono Ca + Mg and GHE Bio Essentials (a trace mix)...

Toodle pip

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[Grim Reefer]

Salutations all....

Mr Grim Prince of Reefer has stated he is unable to view the earlier photos of the malnourished Princess Extreme... so here they are again hopefully for all to see.... Plus a bonus one you lucky peasants....

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The King is aware he is repeating the previous declaration and notice how the tips of the new growth are lighter in colour and narrowed.... The lady is asking for more trace elements..... so the King administered Canna Mono Ca + Mg and GHE Bio Essentials (a trace mix)...

Toodle pip

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Thank you ever so much for taking the time to do this, some great information right there.

 

[The Elvis]

thanks king.. I did not know that..

 

[Milky]

Hello sir!

I´ve been doing some light reading on CO2 and came across this post: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=221893

He claims, after doing what seems like extensive research, that one should not exceed 1.200ppm as the saturation point is around 1.000-1.100ppm. Also, one should not exceed 89F (31.6C) at canopy level.

Here´s a quote:

"The effects from "super-optimal" CO2 concentrations range from reduced rate of photosynthesis, to reduced yield, reduced root growth, reduced stomatal openness, increased photorespiration, etc. In other words, nothing good."

And another:

"The reason why we should ideally use < 1,200 ppm CO2 is the effect high (super-optimal) CO2 has on "Rubisco activase", the substance that turns inactive "Rubisco" into active Rubsico. At CO2 > ~1,200 (and temp > ~89'F) Rubsico activase is inhibited, which in turn inhibits conversion of inactive Rubisco into active Rubisco. And active Rubisco is needed for high rate of photosynthesis, which in turn leads to high growth rates and high yield, etc."

He provides ample proof of his findings and I´m wondering what the King´s take is on all this?

 

[Mr ganjamoto]

Blah.... Blah... Blah.... and I´m wondering what the King´s take is on all this?

Salutations Milky.....

WARNING the King is going into rant mode (not at milky) so ignore this post if you are sensitive to the Kings rantings....

Interesting topic..... The studies that are quoted seem to be mainly related to growing wheat in laboratory conditions! Are we concerned with growing wheat in a laboratory.... The King personally isn't....

The King thinks that some people like to make a simple process more complicated than it needs to be.... and over think what can be a fairly simple process if allowed, the ladies want to grow for goodness sake.... I have an advisor to the court who is/was a Professor of Plant Biology.. a plant researcher and the Kings ladies are far superior to his despite all his fandangled knowledge...

The King also believes that co2 enrichment will benefit most growers who have sorted out their climate and the fact that the average grower will not have co-ordinated co2 dosing and extraction systems it is highly likely that co2 levels will never be around the oft quoted optimum 1500-1600ppm... so if taking into account that super levels may cause a decrease in growth (if they indeed do for our favourite species of plant) this probably wont be an issue for the average grower....

Remember we are generally growing a plant in a hobby tent or grow room and not in a university climate/research room...

To blow a bit of smoke out of the royal rear trumpet the King seems to be growing the largest online documented autos so must be doing something right.... The King has been told he has sub-optimal getting roots into reservoir technique..... sub-optimal turning/rotating of plants.... now sub-optimal co2 enrichment.... seems like a lot of things that are sub-optimal but the King lets the Princesses do the talking at the end of the day....

The Kings first attempt at DWC and first at autos resulted in this little lady.... The grow was conducted with no pre-conceived ideas and definitely no self limiting beliefs.... Just an expectation of learning and of enjoying the process.... which the King suggest you all do.... enjoy the process and learn.... Be ok with trying new things and remember the plant wants to grow at the end of the day and that the ladies needs are fairly basic....

Have fun and love your ladies....

Toodle pip

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[Peteey010]

Salutations King, I have heard many tales of your grows but never been able to find a link to them could you possibly point me in the right direction please

 

[Mr ganjamoto]

Salutations King, I have heard many tales of your grows but never been able to find a link to them could you possibly point me in the right direction please

Salutations Peetey

Certainly.... look at some of the Kings stickys in the DP section of this site..... (above where this thread is listed)

Keep a note book and pencil handy....

Enjoy.....

Toodle pip..

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[Milky]

Salutations Milky.....

Thanks for the explanation Sir, however I wasn´t suggesting that your method was sub par, I was merely wondering if you´ve noticed this effect of having high ppm´s of CO2 and high temps at canopy level.

I realize that our plants are "choked" by low amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere (lucky for us right?) and that enrichment is the way to go. I was actually reading a little about your setup in your other thread and accidentally cross posted.

I´d be delighted to know more about the co2 controller you´re using and what ppm´s and temps you´re at. Why am I asking? It would be retarded not to ask the guy who grows the biggest autos on the planet, right?


For reference I´m quoting you from your other newer awesome thread:

"the Kings method for enrichment utilises bottled co2 and the excellent Unis controller from DP electronics.....

the King sets the volume setting to the next setting up from the actual grow room (tent) volume and usually has the gas injecting into the intake fan if used... the extraction vents into the room where the tent is situated (which can have issues regarding warm humid air so a dehumidifier is used to remove excess moisture.... and heat exchange passively with the rest of Castle Jorilla)..

the tent is usually ventilated with a mixture of passive and active intake so the gas lost on extraction is given the chance of another pass through the tent.... Ventilation rate is controlled via the DP electronics Evolution controller.... the King also has the DP co2 controller and IR co2 analyser though the King has never got round to setting them up and using them....

Even if gas is lost the plants are going to do better than with no enrichment.... the King focuses on the benefit of enrichment rather than the fact co2 may be lost nor maximally efficiently utilised...

Focus on the benefit.....

the King has used natural enrichment methods and they do work however bottled is best if available...."

So you´re pumping co2 into the tents intake and it gets extracted into the room the tent resides in and some of it is recirculated back into the tent. Are you constantly extracting or is it timed?


Anyway if these type of questions bore you feel free to say so.

 

[Mr ganjamoto]

Salutations milky

Thanks for the explanation Sir,

Sir!?! You need to consult Debretts my good man....

however I wasn´t suggesting that your method was sub par,

No you didn't my good man the King was applying self evaluatory techniques....

I´d be delighted to know more about the co2 controller you´re using and what ppm´s and temps you´re at. Why am I asking? It would be retarded not to ask the guy who grows the biggest autos on the planet, right?

Not as delighted as the King is to be answering your question.... Do a search for Ecotechnics Unis co2 controller... the method of utilisation is as set out in the cross post below...

For reference I´m quoting you from your other newer awesome thread:

The King is pleased with the expression of awesomeness and is in agreement...

"the Kings method for enrichment utilises bottled co2 and the excellent Unis controller from DP electronics.... blah blah blah etc...

Ahemmm DP Electronics is now Ecotechnics....

So you´re pumping co2 into the tents intake and it gets extracted into the room the tent resides in and some of it is recirculated back into the tent. Are you constantly extracting or is it timed?

Continuous extraction... speed regulated fan...

Anyway if these type of questions bore you feel free to say so.

The King would also like to extend his gratitude for you granting his highness the privilege to be able to voice his opinion if one indeed finds your questions boring....

Update coming soon

Toodle pip...

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