Dinafem Orange Juice, Purps #1, Cheese CBD, Dinamed Plus Ebb and Flow Rockwool SOG (Animatey)

[RivetGrrl]

View attachment 1089196 Inhaling it is not good either. I am glad you were just messin' with RG.

What you are smelling may just be normal. I know my cubes are earthy swampy smelling but not sour. I would top water for a few days so you are running the live microbes down into the sterilized part instead of moving the dead ones up.

There are a lot of molds we eat all of the time especially on some cheeses.

This takes it to another level, don't read if you get grossed out easy. "strange cheese" is right. https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/strange-cheeses/index.html

Thanks guys!

I definitely plan on running bennies for the remainder of the grow. Hydroguard should arrive today. When I top up the rez, I'll be topping up with water and hydroguard. When I redo the rez each week, I'll add the microbe brew by fox farms.

I know what you mean about the smell MOG, they always have sort of a swampy smell to them, but this one cube seemed to have a lot more than the others so the black stuff worried me.

She was stuck in the corner for the majority of the grow, so I'm not sure if she didn't have maybe a corner of less drainage than everyone else.

I wont use anymore H2O2. I thought a general guideline for moving forward with root disease was to remove it physically as much as possible, then sterilize it some (can't kill all of it) and then add the beneficials to stop if from bouncing back to full strength.

Either way, I'll take your guys advice and just stick to the Hydroguard/etc. from here on out !

That is one way to do it, but the last time I cleaned my roots, gave them an H2O2 bath and put them in a fresh res they died. Since then the tea keeps the pythium away, but in the future I will just bomb with bennies and let them do all the work for me. Doesn't mean it's the correct way, it's just what I experience and where I am at *now* (can and will change I am sure).

I urge you, to be honest, to not always follow what people say. I did, and I learned a lot. But I also killed a lot. So feel free to try what you feel is right, and note what results you get. Like MoG, it is hard to be sure it IS a root disease. I see fresh roots popping out of that cube. I only have ever started plants in rockwool so I don't want to give more than generic advice, and don't want you feeling like you gotta do this or that.

Your leaves don't look too bad, when I had pythium my plants looked like hell. Keep an eye on them, keep adding the beneficials and see where it goes.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

I think a lot of the confusion comes from the different schools of thought on growing cannabis. You can grow sterile (you can, it did not work for me). but in that method H²O² is an important tool. In developing a biome it is better to use living organisms when they are available for the job. Don't forget all of the other schools: Hydro, coco, DWC, rock wool, soil, organic and all the stuff I missed. I learn new shit every day. I see new stuff everyday. After all isn't that why we are here.

Oh yeah one thing I learned is cannabis is pretty tough and most grows yield some good meds.

 

[Dinafem-Mark]

Yep I see. I do not think that is pythium as it looks more like a salt build up with kelp or humic acid coloring it. You can always add Botinicare HydroGuard just to be sure. Make sure you are getting ~20% run-off every day. I think the issue is Potassium deficiency. You need to up the PK booster.

I agree mate

It does not look like pythium to me and does resemble more of a salt build up with maybe a touch of root rot?

You've been super helpful in this thread buddy, thanks so much and this reminds me of why we love the AFN

Here we are at day 39 of 12/12.

The black mold on the bottom of the Dinamed that @RivetGrrl made me eat has not yet negatively impacted her, but after consuming I have made about 100 trips to the bathroom per hour (give or take)

I removed what mold I could by hand and then soaked the bottom inch of the cube in diluted H202 for 30 minutes, twice (once a day).

Then I added microbes to the rez (microbe brew by Fox Farms is what the local hydro shop had), and she seems OK.

You can see the spots on her leaves from what is possibly underfeeding, or the mold.

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I think I got that sorted out now thanks to RG and MOG, we will see how this goes.

The Dinamed is probably the 2nd most interesting plant in the tent so far. She has great open structure, but not too leggy.

The first is this orange juice that wont stop stretching.... She has caused me to raise the lights more than intended and I'm having to get creative raising them...

You can see her in the top right corner here, towering above the other 7:
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She looks nice and smells great..

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Here is a few of the group:
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I have 4, 6 inch fans in the space for air movement. I packed the tent so full that I'm worried about mold etc. and I don't wanna risk a catastrophe.

Smells have started getting strong. The room smells like skunk and cracked pepper.

The Cheese smell like sweet musky barn animals and also floral, like you are smelling flowers at a rodeo.
The Purps smell like straight blueberry 100%, like you just put a handful of blueberries in your mouth and squished them all at once.
The Dinamed has a deep flowery smell that is so full it's almost like an earthy smell, but sorta dank flowers... hard to explain.

The OJ though... she smells like Oranges, Sunscreen, Cream, Peaches and some other hard to define smells... Really complex smell, I'm excited to see how she finishes up.


So hopefully the mold issue doesn't get out of hand on the rockwool, and also the springtails have not been seen at all in my house for about 4 days now... They haven't made it into my grow room.

Let's see if I can finish these last 4-6 weeks without messing it up too much...

Thanks for stopping by, and good luck in your gardens!

You definitely Look back on track my friend with the excellent assistance from the AFN community

Hydro when done well is one of the best growing methods but as your finding out it can take a lot more work as everything needs to be checked and calibrated daily

Back on track and looking good

All the best

Mark..

 

[Animatey]

@Mañ'O'Green @RivetGrrl @Dinafem-Mark

Some sad news here that I am not 100% sure how to deal with...

One of my Orange Juice started throwing nanners. She is in the back of the tent so I'm not sure honestly how long it's been going on. Hoping she hasn't seeded anything but who knows...

I removed her from the tent... Do I just trash her? Can I use the buds for dry ice hash even though they are only 43 days into a 63-70 day flowering period?

Yoikes...

I tried my best to get a pic, but they are definitely yellow protrusions that look like a banana...

You can see she was suffering some deficiency from under feeding.

She is not a bad looking plant though:

Right now she is in a safe place, away from the other plants awaiting her fate. Let me know what you guys think I should do :\

Thank you!

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Yeah, that is a tough call. Nanners for sure. I think you can dry and cure that. It will be a bit racy. If you don't like to smoke it you can make Hash or edibles after curing it.

 

[RivetGrrl]

I am making bubble hash right this second with one of my hermies, talk about timing! I make the bubble from wet so I chopped her up.

Sorry to see the dreaded nanners, but you can use her for hash for sure. The only other thing you could do is flower her out if you can 100% away from any chance of pollen getting out. If your crop got seeded you should not see a diminish in return if it is 10% or less seeded. I had a hermie in the back unload and I was shocked how few seeds I got so my fingers are crossed for you!

 

[Animatey]

Thanks guys!

I'm a little pressed for time this next week so I'm thinking I will chop her up and put her in the freezer. I've read a few articles on making dry ice hash from fresh frozen buds/trim and ppl say it comes out pretty well as far as terpenes and yield.

I don't have another space for her, and I am not prepared to dry and cure a plant right now. I think with the time constraints I am under this might have to be the way forward.

I really appreciate both your inputs, this is honestly my first experience with nanners. Ive probably grown less than 50 plants ever though so it probably says more about my lack of experience than anything else.

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[Mañ'O'Green]

Thanks guys!

I'm a little pressed for time this next week so I'm thinking I will chop her up and put her in the freezer. I've read a few articles on making dry ice hash from fresh frozen buds/trim and ppl say it comes out pretty well as far as terpenes and yield.

I don't have another space for her, and I am not prepared to dry and cure a plant right now. I think with the time constraints I am under this might have to be the way forward.

I really appreciate both your inputs, this is honestly my first experience with nanners. Ive probably grown less than 50 plants ever though so it probably says more about my lack of experience than anything else.

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No! nanners just happen.

 

[Sleazyb]

I'm sorry for your loss brother. It happens to the best of us. It will make you a better grower in the long run. I've had a few throw nanners and it made me pay more attention to everything. Sometimes it isn't even your fault. Just a minor set back for a major comeback. Keep your head up man

 

[Animatey]

I'm sorry for your loss brother. It happens to the best of us. It will make you a better grower in the long run. I've had a few throw nanners and it made me pay more attention to everything. Sometimes it isn't even your fault. Just a minor set back for a major comeback. Keep your head up man

Thanks man!

I definitely will pay more attn from now on... I usually just look at leaves and check for over/under fert and don't pay much attn to buds. I'll definitely be watching for those yellow guys from now on haha.

I'm not too worried about it since I still have one other OJ and she is queen of the tent. I have really been looking forward to trying that strain so as long as she doesn't nanner out as well, it's all good.

I have two friends with medical conditions who only use hash/concentrates, so on the bright side I will have something for them a little earlier!