Need help with prob of Auto Pls

[Tom Bombadil]

Seriously not one person out of the 14 who viewed thread doesn't have a option or anything to add, including a mod? LMAO, I guess if it doesn't have to do with Barneys or Mars then it's not worth the time.?.

whos Barney and why is he on Mars?
anyhow..if youre not removing a plant from one container and putting it in another one, its not a transplant, obviously...not that it matters..transplanting autos is fine, as long as it doesnt damage anything..
Also, no need for the attitude, no one owes you a response. be polite.

 

[Garage_Grower]

whos Barney and why is he on Mars?
anyhow..if youre not removing a plant from one container and putting it in another one, its not a transplant, obviously...not that it matters..transplanting autos is fine, as long as it doesnt damage anything..
Also, no need for the attitude, no one owes you a response. be polite.

 

[4d-Rock]

I’m not the most experienced so take my thoughts with a grain of salt.

It depends on what you consider a transplant. Also, the issue is what it does to the plant in the move. The reason people say not to transplant is so that you aren’t damaging the plants roots in the process. Auto’s have a set lifespan, so any stress during the seedling and early veg stages takes away from the full potential of its shorter veg period (as opposed to photos where you can keep it veg until it is the size you want)

How does this relate to cubes or jiffy’s? Well, same principle, it’s another move and potential damage/stress to the plants roots. But I would think it is fine as long as you aren’t leaving it so long that the roots are all over the outside and in the open air. As mentioned before, once it pops, put the cube in the medium. Rather than waiting for roots to emerge from the sides.

myself, the last few I’ve planted a germed seed in final pot. I find I’m getting better plants than when I was starting in solo cups and transplanting

 

[BII]

I think it better for the seed to sprout protected and cushioned within a plug or cube. Medium/soil even shifting slightly, such as from the pot being moved or jarred, can damage early roots. And when anything appears, a root or stem, 'transplant' to the final pot.

 

[SupaHazee]

I'm with you. I "transfer" my jiffy pellet to final pot, day after sprout. Anybody that considers that a transplant, I would consider to be the village idiot.

Hey y'all, sry didn't mean to freak out earlier, lol. To me the logic is sound and wanted to help/correct a friend. He insisted that it was a transfer, but your going from nothing to something....So it's not one. I lost most of my yield, 13 I think. They were badly stunted and now halfway through their cycle. And I have pre flowers on a 2.5 inch plant. Oh and had to pull the biggest plant, it was a male.

I used prob station with Root Riot Cubes to start them. The paper napkin thing makes me nervous, most popped in 36 hrs.
As long as roots arent damaged the plant does no its being transplanted and doesn't stunt. But that's the rub, hard to do consistently for most.
Do your peat cubes ever get mold or go green? That's the only thing I'm worried about with them. Thx for chiming in and sry about being a arse about it....Long day.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Well at least you don't use a paper towel. I use an A-ok 1.5" rock wool starter cube. I always recommend not transplanting if your system allows for a direct planting. Whether or not you want to call using a starter cube/sponge transplanting is just semantics. I think I am on my sixth grow using the GroDan system which I believe is a form of transplanting (in the business it is called potting-on in soil). I have not found it to be detrimental to the development of the plant's root structure. This is what I do:

Seeds are germinated @79°F with the humidity dome on for a couple of days after the seeds pop. Burple LED 24/0. The little white plastic keeps algae from growing.

When the roots are ready the 6" cubes are PHed and charged with week 2 nutrients, a tsp. of Mykos is added to the hole in the cube and the starter plug is carefully pressed into place:

The FloraFlex cap is positioned and the algae shield is put in place. My regular COB lights are run 18/6 and the plants are not fertigated for 9 days. This will establish a strong root system.

 

[SupaHazee]

Well at least you don't use a paper towel. I use an A-ok 1.5" rock wool starter cube. I always recommend not transplanting if your system allows for a direct planting. Whether or not you want to call using a starter cube/sponge transplanting is just semantics. I think I am on my sixth grow using the GroDan system which I believe is a form of transplanting (in the business it is called potting-on in soil). I have not found it to be detrimental to the development of the plant's root structure. This is what I do:

Seeds are germinated @79°F with the humidity dome on for a couple of days after the seeds pop. Burple LED 24/0. The little white plastic keeps algae from growing.
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When the roots are ready the 6" cubes are PHed and charged with week 2 nutrients, a tsp. of Mykos is added to the hole in the cube and the starter plug is carefully pressed into place:

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The FloraFlex cap is positioned and the algae shield is put in place. My regular COB lights are run 18/6 and the plants are not fertigated for 9 days. This will establish a strong root system.

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Well at least you don't use a paper towel. I use an A-ok 1.5" rock wool starter cube. I always recommend not transplanting if your system allows for a direct planting. Whether or not you want to call using a starter cube/sponge transplanting is just semantics. I think I am on my sixth grow using the GroDan system which I believe is a form of transplanting (in the business it is called potting-on in soil). I have not found it to be detrimental to the development of the plant's root structure. This is what I do:

Seeds are germinated @79°F with the humidity dome on for a couple of days after the seeds
View attachment 1156926View attachment 1156927

When the roots are ready the 6" cubes are PHed and charged with week 2 nutrients, a tsp. of Mykos is added to the hole in the cube and the starter plug is carefully pressed into place:

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The FloraFlex cap is positioned and the algae shield is put in place. My regular COB lights are run 18/6 and the plants are not fert

Sorry about the screwed up formatting, for the life of me I can't find the cancel button.?.

So where you just having a laugh or don't like the paper towel fix?

You have a nice method and kick-arse roots to boot! I'm not running hydro, only soil...You can't use rock with soil can you?

I'm going to pull a few of the really stunted ones and start more. This time I'm taking the cubes out of the equation and going straight to 1 gal fabric pot. It's the only thing left to change. I had rather not do this everytime for several reasons, one being just nudging the fabric pot can shift the roots while they are starting.

Ya know they picked up for a few days after repot, but now it's stalled again on most. Have no idea what's going on...
I'll start a few more in pots and see what happens.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

What is wrong with your plants? show me some pictures. You are correct about moving fabric pots and the potential for root damage.

Yes, you could use rock wool to start seeds for soil.

Here is the paper towel speech:
I know that a lot of growers swear by it and their proof is the fact that many plants survive the technique because they need the instant gratification of seeing the tap root they germinate them in paper towels. If you look at a tap root under 200x magnification you will see the “root hairs” that grow laterally out from the tap root. These become the plant’s uptake roots. They will grow into the fibers of the paper towels and are ripped off every time the seedling is move or the towel is opened – ouch. Then when transplanting it is very easy to bump the tap root tip and damage it or kill the seedling – Why?

 

[SupaHazee]

What is wrong with your plants? show me some pictures. You are correct about moving fabric pots and the potential for root damage.

Yes, you could use rock wool to start seeds for soil.

Here is the paper towel speech:
I know that a lot of growers swear by it and their proof is the fact that many plants survive the technique because they need the instant gratification of seeing the tap root they germinate them in paper towels. If you look at a tap root under 200x magnification you will see the “root hairs” that grow laterally out from the tap root. These become the plant’s uptake roots. They will grow into the fibers of the paper towels and are ripped off every time the seedling is move or the towel is opened – ouch. Then when transplanting it is very easy to bump the tap root tip and damage it or kill the seedling – Why?

Oh dear I don't know if you want to go down That rabbit hole, lol! I mean I don't mind showing you, a little embarrassed maybe . I'd have to link to another forum and not sure of the rules on that.?.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Oh dear I don't know if you want to go down That rabbit hole, lol! I mean I don't mind showing you, a little embarrassed maybe . I'd have to link to another forum and not sure of the rules on that.?.

It is not good etiquette.