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some nice plants, curious to see if smoke test changes your opinion of the one KK
Med-Man Brand -- MGM -- Test Grow Home Thread
I took a few buds off the one I don't favor and gave them a try today because I'm out of bud lol. It's been drying for a few days but still not done. The smoke was actually really enjoyable. Very energetic and a soaring high for quite some time I really liked it, it was a nice change. I'll be keeping one of the 2. Haven't tried the more favorable one yet. Still going to wait a couple weeks.
It was over at icmagwere I found out about men man seeds so I scraped the $$ up to buy a couple packs and I was excited to get them and grow 'me. So I did started 7of them and had 3 that didn't germ so I put 4 more in paper towel they all germed. After months of growing I end up with a bunch of nanners and seeds on my plants.
So I contacted him about this and he said he would replace them but never heard from him again. I wouldn't have minded so bad if he was a man that stood behind his products but all he is after and all he cares about is $$$$$$$.
So I contacted him about this and he said he would replace them but never heard from him again. I wouldn't have minded so bad if he was a man that stood behind his products but all he is after and all he cares about is $$$$$$$.
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I just finished a final report so I'm a bit spent. I'll be back with updates and pics when I can. My comp has a trojan somewhere and I can't post pics at the moment. Just wanted to say @Truu that crazy on your small painkillers. I have one that is 5' 6". The other one is between 3-4 feet. And I do concur with you that the end product, if you're able to get it, is phenomenal.
Final Report
https://www.autoflower.org/threads/med-man-brand-seeds-information.47753/page-5
I'll be back later with more updates of mine. So far so good on the Painkillers. No signs of any problems whatsoever. I actually collected pollen of a large skunky coffee smelling male Painkiller and hit the 5' 6" one. She smell like a Lemon war head right now so I'm hoping she stays hermie/nanner free.
Final Report
https://www.autoflower.org/threads/med-man-brand-seeds-information.47753/page-5
I'll be back later with more updates of mine. So far so good on the Painkillers. No signs of any problems whatsoever. I actually collected pollen of a large skunky coffee smelling male Painkiller and hit the 5' 6" one. She smell like a Lemon war head right now so I'm hoping she stays hermie/nanner free.
Hey Buds! Here's the Painkillers I have going. They vegged for 2 months. Been about 3 weeks in 12/12 and I haven't seen any signs of stress. At all. So keeping fingers crossed! I had 1 male and 2 females so I collected the males pollen and hit 4 branches on the big Painkiller. She's about 5' 6" and smells like a lemon drop candy. I hope she retains it. The smaller one smells good as well but not like lemon. Here's some shots...
kind of odd.
i have no return or exchange policy. this policy has been in effect for 10 years now or more.
i wouldnt give this message any salt.
med-man
in the thousands of seed i have grown, one thing remains constant with my strains i work with
they dont need much nutes. especially from seed.
i have 1 cup room i run my breeding elites in, and the other 2250 sq/ft i have i do seed runs and breeding. and abuse the hell out of them to test them.
in the candian medical scene. people grow seeds to select mothers for production. if my photos dont suite the auto growers needs i totally understand
oddly enough. i have heaps of feed-back from growers whom have paid for and been gifted seeds that complain about other breeders in their rooms and not mine
if anyone on here thinks blasting plants with nutes (leaf claw) is "optimal conditions", i will agree to disagree
kind regards
i really appreciate everyones feed back
med-man
ps. this was my first grow in 18 months after moving home from a consultation gigi with a pharmaceutical company
72 leamon head-bands (pain killer x head-band)
72 straw-berry pain killers (sams#1xnl#2) x purple pain killer
started from seed. 32 of each selected from beer cups to flower
10 pounds from 6 x 600 (4.8 kw)
not 1 seed or nanner
this grow was far from perfect. and abused in beer cups during selection process. lots of strains from lots of people will nanner under stress. common knowledge. if i guaranteed no nanners, then i could see an issue. but i never did.
they dont need much nutes. especially from seed.
i have 1 cup room i run my breeding elites in, and the other 2250 sq/ft i have i do seed runs and breeding. and abuse the hell out of them to test them.
in the candian medical scene. people grow seeds to select mothers for production. if my photos dont suite the auto growers needs i totally understand
oddly enough. i have heaps of feed-back from growers whom have paid for and been gifted seeds that complain about other breeders in their rooms and not mine
if anyone on here thinks blasting plants with nutes (leaf claw) is "optimal conditions", i will agree to disagree
kind regards
i really appreciate everyones feed back
med-man
ps. this was my first grow in 18 months after moving home from a consultation gigi with a pharmaceutical company
72 leamon head-bands (pain killer x head-band)
72 straw-berry pain killers (sams#1xnl#2) x purple pain killer
started from seed. 32 of each selected from beer cups to flower
10 pounds from 6 x 600 (4.8 kw)
not 1 seed or nanner
this grow was far from perfect. and abused in beer cups during selection process. lots of strains from lots of people will nanner under stress. common knowledge. if i guaranteed no nanners, then i could see an issue. but i never did.
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Med man you can't just blame a little nitrogen OD on the cause of plants hermi in flower.
My problem is not the hermis in flower. My problem was the fact that I got 2 plants out of 5 in VEG that put out both male and female parts. These plants are destined to be herms because it's in their genes. They are not male nor female, just hermies.
Also from a business standpoint I personally don't like it when someone says they didn't claim there would be no hermies. We know nobody would want their seeds to herm but when you got multiple people saying it's happening, the issue may need to be addressed instead of just blaming the growers.
By the way, the konkushion is some great smoke, def worthy for medicinal patients.
My problem is not the hermis in flower. My problem was the fact that I got 2 plants out of 5 in VEG that put out both male and female parts. These plants are destined to be herms because it's in their genes. They are not male nor female, just hermies.
Also from a business standpoint I personally don't like it when someone says they didn't claim there would be no hermies. We know nobody would want their seeds to herm but when you got multiple people saying it's happening, the issue may need to be addressed instead of just blaming the growers.
By the way, the konkushion is some great smoke, def worthy for medicinal patients.
We aren't just auto growers mate. Most of the test growers here are top notch photo growers. I used a veganic plant based nute line(Vegematrix) on my run and can burn up a plant IF I over dosed the plant. There should not be hermie issues on your strains, with a bit of burnt tips anyway. We can all agree to disagree, but at the end of the day, there was a high percentage of the testers, that indeed got nanners on multiple strains in multiple setups with multiple nute lines. Too many good growers here for it to be environmental or over ferting!
You stated you had your own way of stress testing them...so the above statement should not even be considered. By your own words...
So there you have it, even you state that you will not back up your own work.
Enough said, we will let the members decide for them selves.
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:smoking: Well and fairly said guys... I have no dog in this fight myself, but like so many, am a conscientious observer... I would preface all this by saying such plenty well educated and experienced growers already know that there's no such thing as a guaranteed 100% anything in seeds-- reg's, fem's, auto's, whatever,... all have a fair eye toward "possibility",... they know Mother Nature has a knack for work-arounds, man-made or otherwise... 
... what's most disturbing about this is these were all reg. seeds, ostensibly the most stable way to go, no fingering the fem' process/dicey parentage selection for fraggy results! I'll bet that's their biggest beef with all this, straight up,...
It is plainly stated above, and the Biologist in me agrees: given the diversity of grow parameters/nute's, etc., the (literally documented) skills and methodology of the individuals involved, and the small sample size of all the females that developed, the statistical likelihood of getting this many intersex problems from that many different strains is laughably small, be it from sheer bad dumb luck and/or individual error... unless something other than this is off, and the #1 most likely source is genetics,... clearly from what they say, bud quality itself isn't the issue; MM has received high praise indeed, from some of whom I know personally to be plenty damn picky about overall quality!
All due respect Med Man, if you think these collective results are from whatever facet of grower error, then present at least an anecdotal, if not empirical, case for it--
--review and analyze the growers, and present us with either a unifying or individual cause for such alarming results,...substantiate some credibility for denial and you will silence the uproar like a plug pulled! 
... As for the comments about auto growers, or better still, those who grow both auto's and photo's, the nutrient stunting/stressing/clawing blame thing is an red herring of sorts,...In 3 + years of being here, I've not once heard anybody say photo's are more difficult to grow than auto's, including major breeder rep's and the like,... have you not grown auto's yourself and noticed that they are, as a group in general, more sensitive to rich soils and over-feeding than photo's? If anything, such growers are leery of this in particular with auto's, since there is no time to fix it, so I'd wager their attention to nutrient dosing is keener than typical photo' only growers,...Even if some plants were a tad overfed, blaming this for the collective intersexing problem is a stretch to far, sorry!...
... what's most disturbing about this is these were all reg. seeds, ostensibly the most stable way to go, no fingering the fem' process/dicey parentage selection for fraggy results! I'll bet that's their biggest beef with all this, straight up,...It is plainly stated above, and the Biologist in me agrees: given the diversity of grow parameters/nute's, etc., the (literally documented) skills and methodology of the individuals involved, and the small sample size of all the females that developed, the statistical likelihood of getting this many intersex problems from that many different strains is laughably small, be it from sheer bad dumb luck and/or individual error... unless something other than this is off, and the #1 most likely source is genetics,... clearly from what they say, bud quality itself isn't the issue; MM has received high praise indeed, from some of whom I know personally to be plenty damn picky about overall quality!
All due respect Med Man, if you think these collective results are from whatever facet of grower error, then present at least an anecdotal, if not empirical, case for it--
--review and analyze the growers, and present us with either a unifying or individual cause for such alarming results,...substantiate some credibility for denial and you will silence the uproar like a plug pulled! ... As for the comments about auto growers, or better still, those who grow both auto's and photo's, the nutrient stunting/stressing/clawing blame thing is an red herring of sorts,...In 3 + years of being here, I've not once heard anybody say photo's are more difficult to grow than auto's, including major breeder rep's and the like,... have you not grown auto's yourself and noticed that they are, as a group in general, more sensitive to rich soils and over-feeding than photo's? If anything, such growers are leery of this in particular with auto's, since there is no time to fix it, so I'd wager their attention to nutrient dosing is keener than typical photo' only growers,...Even if some plants were a tad overfed, blaming this for the collective intersexing problem is a stretch to far, sorry!...
