Making seeds for home growers with limited space

[Boognelson87]

At what age do you establish which male and female you choose? Do you choose female before flower or right at flower?

 

[Shaawing]

@Shaawing Goldwalker and Goldwidow both have the same fully auto goldstone as dad



That all depends on what you are trying to achive with the pollination ..

The Stone dragons are REALLY good med plants, but not the biggest growing and are very uniform at f5

the f1's will give a lot more variation .. for instance the Goldwalker f1 have pheno's all the way from green to dark purple ... hint hint.. the greens are my fav and was choosen to breed f2 with

Im working on goldwalker f3 atm

Gravid Goldwalker f2's :

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Best of luck and feel free to ask

Cheers

On the website it says the goldstone is a xxl autoreg that should have about 75% autoflower and 25% photo offspring but I guess that could just be the one they are selling right now and not what they used..

Honestly I would just be looking to achieve healthy seeds that will grow good plants... I appreciate when a strain is very uniform offspring but I do like different smoke so variation is totally fine aswell. Knowing the genetics I will breed with I'm not afraid of getting shitty phenotypes if there is a large variation, I know itll all be great..

I've been trying to find a way to grow males and females in the same tent without pollination and I found a isolation chamber that's made out of a clear bin a computer fan and some furnace filter.. it looks pretty cool and lots of people vouch for it and theres different variations.. I'm definately going to build one I already ordered a fan for it lol

 

[Shaawing]

https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/diy-jlps-male-isolation-chamber.8745/
Theres a link to it, I've uses other diy things that logic has posted aswell, he seems to know his stuff.. not his design though just a repost..

 

[Shaawing]

Stone Dragon was my male of choice when making most of my Mephisto crosses. Those crosses will now be BX into their Mephisto parents to eventually have true running Mephisto regs so I can have Blue Tooth and Purple nuggets forever.

I've found pollinating a single bud to be more than adequate for my needs. Generally I pull the males out of the cabinet once they sex and sick them under a cheap blurple light until it's sexy time. I'm only interested in their DNA, not their size or health.

I use a little makeup brush to pollinate the lower bud carefully. Then about 2 hours later I mist the bud site with water to kill remaining pollen. I'll repeat this a few days later on the same bud to ensure dense pollination of the whole bud.

One lower bud generally gives between 25-100 seeds. Dry them well for a week then seal them up in a moisture proof container and refrigerate for at least a month or two.

Good luck!

Thanks for the reply! I missed out on blue toof and purple nugs unfortunately.. yea I've heared if pollinated properly that a plant can yield 1000s of seeds. Do you pollinate a lower bud because it's not a prime bud close to the light or for the same reason clones are usually taken from the bottom for hormones?

 

[Archaic]

Thanks for the reply! I missed out on blue toof and purple nugs unfortunately.. yea I've heared if pollinated properly that a plant can yield 1000s of seeds. Do you pollinate a lower bud because it's not a prime bud close to the light or for the same reason clones are usually taken from the bottom for hormones?

Just to keep the pollen away from the bigger more desirable buds. Even a larfy little stem bud can make a LOT of seeds.

At what age do you establish which male and female you choose? Do you choose female before flower or right at flower?

I don't worry too much about it honestly, especially with a plant like SD that is pretty consistent. A lot of times I'll actually use pollen from multiple males in order to assure a little bit of diversity.

If I am looking for a trophy male, I generally use some of DJ Short's criteria for choosing. Any males with trichs goes to the front, health and vigor, tight internodal spacing, etc. His stuff is pretty easy to find, although I don't use it much.

I currently have thousands of autoflower seeds, it's a very liberating feeling.

 

[Fitzy]

All good info I will say until f2 don't worry about selecting and even after breed all as was stated I do this and take lots of notes label seeds I've got 2 original blue toof fem that are now being crossed I have f1 reg of blue toof 24carat that I will ntrrd back with another blue toof after running f1 to f4. The more separate phenotypes u separate by keeping those notes you will notice recessive traits ect. But again notes only had one bad cross buds never dense up most likely a double recessive trait or something like that. I would love to follow along your post sounds like where I was 3yrs ago almost exactly but you have regs right away which is better

 

[Fitzy]

I love blue toof also man great sea of green stain. Mite be interesting with some SD

 

[Bigg Al]

Here's mines, mephisto CDLC x ALF [HASHTAG]#5[/HASHTAG], green pipe cleaner

Mephisto CDLC x Anvil orange pipe cleaner

Now just need a name for them!

 

[CannaDaTaBiz]

First germinate a lot of seeds, bit more than your grow space allows when they are like 3 weeks old. When they start showing sex, save the best male and take it separate from all females. Feel free to get rid of worst females also if they wont fit your grow space properly if you have some extra ones. But dont get rid of all that wouldnt fit the grow space. Just some that wont fit in the near future and are clearly not candidates for genes. Now you flower the best male separately so that its pollen wont get to females. What you do is you collect the pollen and brush it with a fine paint brush to some colas only and just for the best females, or the best female depending what you want seeds from and id you plan of making more seeds later. If you choose more than one that you will breed together, select ones that are most alike and ofc best or that show complimentary traits(like fat buds from one and most frost from another) that you plan on getting together, at this point it depends a lot on what you want. Possibly the best for you is just to make more than enough seeds from best male and female and grow those. Or you can make just a tiny bit of seeds each round and develop your own strain.

Ofc you could also attemp making fem seeds and making tons of them for future needs if you just want a big bag of seeds for the future and not care to make more seeds