Ive lsted 2 of mine and its a bitch, if you do it as drastic as i did, lots of tying and its damn near impossible to water them haha. I love AN they have really high quality bloom nutes. Ill probably switch over to something a bit cheaper for my next grow for veg cause ill be doing only autos so bloom nutes are more important. I heard house and garden root excelorator is awesome ill probably check it out soon.