LED true wattage misleading

[LaoWhoo]

Right. An seems I saw a few simply state PAR values for 18" as a sorta adopted shorthand standard...which is why I said, "Whaaa...?" when seeing this (can someone explain to me how it's possible w/o running diodes too hot?) :

Amazon product

However, further down the page there's a simple statement, "PAR value 785," wh/ is what you might expect with the COB middle lights at 18" but nothing like the "1281" that the graphic shows first.

 

[Animatey]

All led when you buy, do not think that his name is watts, like we will put the actual watts on the site, some sellers may not. Now there are a lot of sellers on ebay who say their lights are 1,000 watts, but they're only 100 watts.The name of the product is sometimes for SEO, in fact, the wattof each lamp bead is 5w, or 3w, but when you use it, the actual output of the lamp bead is only about 30%. But it also makes the beads last longer

Yall still do the same thing. Sure you will tell people the actual draw somewhere in small print, but you advertise the same as most LED manufacturers with an "equivalent" wattage.

In my opinion this is plain dishonest and unhelpful to new growers trying to sort out the many technicalities of starting to grow cannabis.


Reputable next generation lighting companies like HLG and Timber (and many others that use Cobs/QBs) give only actual wattage, which is what actually matters. I don't want a manufacturer's opinion on an "equivalent" wattage as it is never even close to true, and the purpose is clearly to sell more lights, not help gardeners designing a grow space.

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[Marshydro]

Yall still do the same thing. Sure you will tell people the actual draw somewhere in small print, but you advertise the same as most LED manufacturers with an "equivalent" wattage.

In my opinion this is plain dishonest and unhelpful to new growers trying to sort out the many technicalities of starting to grow cannabis.


Reputable next generation lighting companies like HLG and Timber (and many others that use Cobs/QBs) give only actual wattage, which is what actually matters. I don't want a manufacturer's opinion on an "equivalent" wattage as it is never even close to true, and the purpose is clearly to sell more lights, not help gardeners designing a grow space.

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If you go to our official website, our actual power is written down in obvious places.

 

[Bong Whisperer]

If you go to our official website, our actual power is written down in obvious places.

True. But you still have made up bigger numbers in larger fonts above the real numbers.

To be fair, I believe the newest models are named honestly.

 

[H8plow]

I don't know about today but it used to be that 100watt led meant it was equivalent to 100 watt incandescent bulb. Basically that "measure" started with cfl and halogens. Think that's bad, look at how companies determine wattage in music amplifiers.

Absolutely correct, I run a hlg 550 rspec. It’s rated at 500w turned up pulls 490 off the wall. It is compared to a 1,000 watt hps light (same scenario you gave regarding the incandescent bulb. A lot of led companies like to inflate their power rating, especially mars hydro and give out phony results.

 

[Archaic]

Mars hydro is probably the best of the blurple Epistar companies because of their customer service and product depth. Even inefficient older LED technology can grow better than filiment bulbs.

When you start getting into more modern high efficiency LEDs you can really just toss wattage comparison out the window. When most of your watts are becoming photons instead of heaters you are on the path to enlightenment.
(I couldn't help myself)

 

[H8plow]

Mars hydro is probably the best of the blurple Epistar companies because of their customer service and product depth. Even inefficient older LED technology can grow better than filiment bulbs.

When you start getting into more modern high efficiency LEDs you can really just toss wattage comparison out the window. When most of your watts are becoming photons instead of heaters you are on the path to enlightenment.
(I couldn't help myself)

Blurple, peeps still using those?

 

[Arthur]

Things were a lot more simple when we just stole HPS lights of the local grocery. Pre-internet days.

 

[Deke]

Things were a lot more simple when we just stole HPS lights of the local grocery. Pre-internet days.

Haha, yes!
And Ed Rosenthal's books and High Times were our internet!

 

[Arthur]

Sittin' on the floor of tower books "studying". 1 copy of Cervantes book between 4 growers.