Leaves vs Roots

[Citadel]

Haha pruned or un pruned does it matter do what works for the individual.

As for evidence man it's one plant you need to do many of them for a few years with controls and variable dialed in to confirm the results.

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[blue]

I've been a bit of a devil (or at least an advocate) .. because i think i've stumbled across this subject before!
I remember people used to get really heated about it ^_^

Hi Blue, well to answer your points first I'd remind you that the defoliation part only came about as an extra side benefit to the big root structure

I understand .. the SWC system makes plants grow extra awesome!
But you are chopping leaves ...right??

it is in fact a defoliation funeral.

So ... you're not defoliating?? Or... it's a foregone conclusion and absolute certainty that defoliation MUST be done in order to keep a plant in a SWC system controllable and "right" ^_^

but the SWC system has another benefit of causing no recovery period at all.

Hmmm - ummmm - Like a miracle? lol ... Something gets chopped .. and something needs to heal.

not only will you have the sort of root structure to build a powerful plant but it kills the defoliate or not to defoliate question, dead.

No more debate!! woo-hoo! We cracked it boys!!

Would this also work on a Mainlined, Topped & SuperCropped plant under 24 hours of light during flushing???
(the trifecta!!!)



I'm just kidding a little!

As all others will say .. If it's working for you and you're getting awesome results - keep with it.
Personally i'll never have the facility with my current setup to try ... but i will defoilate (and i use an auto pot system) ... without doing it, i increase the risk of mold and decrease the potential yield!

 

[CannaDaTaBiz]

I think the issue is much more complicated than simple good vs bad.

First lets state the fact that a plant needs leaves for photosynthesis = to grow. More leaves generally means more light to the plant = it grows better.

HOWEVER. Sometimes leaves might shadow areas(bud sites etc) that ought to grow better and where more photosynthesis is needed more. So it might seem like a good idea to take off that leaf from shadowing more critical areas.

HOWEVER. Because a leaf provides energy mostly to the side branch/budsite on its root, it might slow down that budsite in a critical way. That is if it is not large enough to collect necessary amounts of light to not get stunted till its large enough to provide better for itself. Its also not a good idea to remove leaves not far from top of the plant as they contribute most to development of the main cola.

You might also want to think of the whole area on the plant receiving light. If you remove a leaf from shadowing a side branch, but then 50% of light doesent hit the plant anymore even tho the bud site is not being shadowed, it might be a bad idea to take it off.

Then there is the difference of soil vs hydro. In hydro plant can bounce back much faster, which means that even if you leave some bit too small side branch/budsite without a leaf, it can grow large enough to provide itself much fast than in soil.

Blindly taking leaves off is a silly idea imo. Learn to read what the plant would prefer and think every leaf you take off as a sacrifice that will damage the plant more or less, but some other part might benefit from this great sacrifice.

If a leaf doesent receive much or any light, its no use other than a nutrient bank for those nurients that move around, but likely just wastes more energy than produces. Also leafs that dont receive light in some lower levels can raise humidity and cause issues from just that in some setups. So generally its better to take those off, especially with large photos, in sog etc

 

[Simplicio]

You've just made statements that provide no information at all. For example Another pruning issue is that it slows plants down, which reduces yield per month. That's demonstrably not true I can prove it, have already proved it. I have no idea at all what you are trying to say, much less would I want a link to a random defoliation thread when there are a bazillion of them. I don't do other peoples research I do my own, and I present my results which speak for themselves.

Again, you are not doing real experiments.
Without a control plant, grown without any pruning, all you can say is that you like what you are doing, which is fine.
But you can't say that pruning speeds up growth or increases yield.

I think my unpruned plants mature faster and yield more than your pruned plants, but I have no proof, so all I can do is make the same unfounded claim that you do.

When you grow several identical clones side by side, half with pruning, and half without, then measure final average yield, that will be a real experiment.