Live Stoners January 2019

[Taipan]

Good evening LS

 

[Taipan]

 

[Mike20132]

Good evening LS

Sup, bro

 

[pop22]

The difference between one scoop and another is not worth thinking about. I've grown at least 16 plants and am 2/3 into my second grow using Mega 2.0 and I've not had any problems. I'm growing in auto pots and another good thing with MC2 is I've not had a line clog, and as an experiment, in one tent i've not cleaned to res or the lines and yet I'm about 8 weeks into the second grow.
I don't get fancy mixing either, I use an empty coconut oil jar for a shaker and give it a good shake until I don't here the calcium chunks any more, then mix it into my 5 gallon bucket.

This is one of the plants of the second grow:

The thing about MC1 is that I never saw the lack of uniformity in 5Gm scoops like I did with MC2. I think I may switch back to MC1 to finish out my current grow.....I don't know if this factor causes any probs.....none seem to be reported.........I have noticed a slower response to feeding with the MC2...but as with everything concerning canna grows....too many damn variables to know for sure!

 

[Mike20132]

The difference between one scoop and another is not worth thinking about. I've grown at least 16 plants and am 2/3 into my second grow using Mega 2.0 and I've not had any problems. I'm growing in auto pots and another good thing with MC2 is I've not had a line clog, and as an experiment, in one tent i've not cleaned to res or the lines and yet I'm about 8 weeks into the second grow.
I don't get fancy mixing either, I use an empty coconut oil jar for a shaker and give it a good shake until I don't here the calcium chunks any more, then mix it into my 5 gallon bucket.

This is one of the plants of the second grow:

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I would argue for small weights, 1 gram for example, the difference between scoops is actually pretty significant. For people like me that need to mix at that level it's a real concern. Or at least one that won't likely be settled through anecdotal evidence.

Interestingly enough when I try to pre-mix at the ratio suggested by greenleaf: 0.1g:1ml, it never fully dissolves. It's been on the stir plate for 7 hours now. Still a good 1/2 inch of sediment at the bottom of a beaker. I'm going to up the amount of distilled water to 0.1g:1.5ml and see what happens.

 

[hesgone13]

The difference between one scoop and another is not worth thinking about. I've grown at least 16 plants and am 2/3 into my second grow using Mega 2.0 and I've not had any problems. I'm growing in auto pots and another good thing with MC2 is I've not had a line clog, and as an experiment, in one tent i've not cleaned to res or the lines and yet I'm about 8 weeks into the second grow.
I don't get fancy mixing either, I use an empty coconut oil jar for a shaker and give it a good shake until I don't here the calcium chunks any more, then mix it into my 5 gallon bucket.

This is one of the plants of the second grow:

View attachment 1055799

I wondered about that....as far as differences between scoops go and their relative importance to an overall grow.......I think it has an effect only in very small doses....you are growing hydro in 5 gallon mixes which I assume means you are using 3-5 Gms of MC2 per gallon which works out to 15 to 25 Gms total MC2 when mixed. I'm using 3-5 Gms per gallon/per three days for my one plant grow....this means you are using 3-5 times that amount when mixing your feed. I think your amount of MC2 would definitely ease any differences in nute composition but relatively small amounts[less than 5gms]might be affected. Believe me, I'm not dissing MC2, I think both the MCs were a real advance in canna culture. It is an interesting thing to think about, though..............

 

[pop22]

then the answer to that is to make a stock solution. There are various formulas for that. I simply mix 25 Tbsp into a liter of water and store it in an old cal/mag bottle. Yep, there's sludge in the bottom! I simply shake the hell out of it before measuring. I take 1 Tbsp of solution from a new batch and mix it into my 5 gallons of RO water, then measure the ppms so I know from that point how much I need to add.

I would argue for small weights, 1 gram for example, the difference between scoops is actually pretty significant. For people like me that need to mix at that level it's a real concern. Or at least one that won't likely be settled through anecdotal evidence.

Interestingly enough when I try to pre-mix at the ratio suggested by greenleaf: 0.1g:1ml, it never fully dissolves. It's been on the stir plate for 7 hours now. Still a good 1/2 inch of sediment at the bottom of a beaker. I'm going to up the amount of distilled water to 0.1g:1.5ml and see what happens.

 

[pop22]

That sutff may be plant matter from the kelp.

If your looking for a perfectly suspended solution then you should be using a homogenizer rather than a stir plate

Finally started a little experiment I had been talking about with @hesgone13

Recently I wrote Greenleaf nutrients to ask how to make sure I am getting consistent nutrient solution when I am measuring such small amounts by weight (2g or less) when I make a batch.

They suggested dissolving 100 grams in 1 L of distilled water. Thus 10ml of solution = 1g of dry nutes. Sounded like a good plan, so I made a batch tonight. Mainly to see if the chemistry changes over time, indicating that some of the components are reacting with each other and/or are breaking down.

Didn't want to tie up one of my larger beakers, so I cut the amounts in half, and mixed 500ml of distilled water and 50 grams of the new formulation of Megacrop.

90 minutes on the stir plate and it did not fully dissolve. There is a small dusting of light colored particulate matter on the bottom of the beaker. I've transferred it to a sealed jar and will let it sit overnight to see if the rest dissolves. If it doesn't, I am not sure if it's worth pursuing this. I don't really know if whatever that powder is might be at it's saturation point in water already, or perhaps it's just insoluble impurities (sand, maybe?).

 

[Mike20132]

then the answer to that is to make a stock solution. There are various formulas for that. I simply mix 25 Tbsp into a liter of water and store it in an old cal/mag bottle. Yep, there's sludge in the bottom! I simply shake the hell out of it before measuring. I take 1 Tbsp of solution from a new batch and mix it into my 5 gallons of RO water, then measure the ppms so I know from that point how much I need to add.

That;s what I am doing. 50 grams in 500ml of distilled water, per greenleaf. At their recommended ratio, i would expect it to all dissolve. Oddly, it doesn't even after 10 hours accumulated strong stirring.

 

[Mike20132]

That sutff may be plant matter from the kelp.

If your looking for a perfectly suspended solution then you should be using a homogenizer rather than a stir plate

I guess after adding 50% more water to the solution we'll know if its insoluble matter quickly enough.

I'm hoping its just the water has reached a saturation point. I can deal with that.