Live Stoners January 2019

[Dichoti]

Lemmy.
Then again, if it's my strain, it'll leave you in a corner drooling on your shirt asking "Which way did he go, George? Which way did he go?"

 

[John d 123456789]

Everything looks okay (to me) at this point. Do you think something is wrong? Is she droopy or sad looking?

thanks for the reply personally I’m only worried if I watered enough or to less been told to drench pots or but of water by transplant area ? To me she seems not to be fussed to much a little drop but was like it when transplanted so not sure

 

[Dichoti]

thanks for the reply personally I’m only worried if I watered enough or to less been told to drench pots or but of water by transplant area ? To me she seems not to be fussed to much a little drop but was like it when transplanted so not sure

I wouldn't worry too much then, Unless she starts going downhill. Your plants will droop when lights go out(mine do, anyway) when they're getting thirsty etc etc So I'd just water like normal.

 

[John d 123456789]

I’m just overthinks right I think lol yeah il keep an eye on her and okay thanks for putting mind at rest and never transplanted so not quite sure I think they should alright with what I gave em cause they should chase the water then once dry gunna soak still 10-20% run off sound alright the new node coming though aswell so she’s must be happy

 

[MR magoo]

Mossy always bring a taste by for you! help your self.

 

[Mike20132]

With the first mc I mixed my whole 1000g bag in a gallon of warm water. About 100°f by placing gallon in sink of hot water. Still have some in jug and was using for 2 years.

That's good to know. Now if I can just get it all to dissolve....

 

[Mike20132]

 

[hesgone13]

After letting it sit for about an hour, this is what settled to the bottom. Mind you this is after 90 minutes of strong stirring on the stir plate.

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Looks like a few more hours on the stir plate. I have a feeling this might not dissolve. And I have a feeling it's not impurities.

Which is weird, because this is exact ratio greenleaf nutrients told me to use. 1g per 10ml RO/distilled water.

*shrug* If it doesn't dissolve after a few more hours of stirring, I'll see if adding another 250ml of water helps.

I'd start monitoring the chemistry, but I don't see the point until it's all dissolved.

@Mike20132 Well, that is disturbing.......I have never had any problem with MC2 not dissolving completely, at least in amounts of 5Gms or less per gallon. You might try adding the MC2 to the water in very small amounts....letting it dissolve completely before adding more. I remember when MC2 first came out, several people that were mixing large amounts reported that it wouldn't go into solution easily....one person heated the solution and finally got it all to dissolve.

That being said, I do think there has to be a wide variation in dosing the various chemicals, etc that compose MC2. I you accept the premise that the different sizes, shapes, and colors of the components of MC2 contain different chemicals or substances, it would be almost impossible for the amounts of each to be constant. I recently scooped out 10 different 5Gm scoops and spread them out on paper to better see the components. This was after shaking bag well to mix it and just pulling out 5Gm scoops at random. Let's just take the little white balls for example as these are the easiest to see.....I have no idea what these balls contain but I do know that the amount of them one gets varies wildly from scoop to scoop e.g.the ten scoops I pulled contained from three of the little white balls to twenty of them!

I feed roughly a gallon every three days using 4-5 Gms of MC2. Let's say that the little white balls contain nitrogen[I have no idea what they contain.] If we take the low and high of the samples I pulled, it means that one feeding has only 3 balls of nitrogen while three days later, I might be feeding over six times as much!

I still think MC2 is an excellent product.....I just wonder about nute amount variation, especially for those who are using small amounts per feeding.

 

[Mike20132]

@Mike20132 Well, that is disturbing.......I have never had any problem with MC2 not dissolving completely, at least in amounts of 5Gms or less per gallon. You might try adding the MC2 to the water in very small amounts....letting it dissolve completely before adding more. I remember when MC2 first came out, several people that were mixing large amounts reported that it wouldn't go into solution easily....one person heated the solution and finally got it all to dissolve.

That being said, I do think there has to be a wide variation in dosing the various chemicals, etc that compose MC2. I you accept the premise that the different sizes, shapes, and colors of the components of MC2 contain different chemicals or substances, it would be almost impossible for the amounts of each to be constant. I recently scooped out 10 different 5Gm scoops and spread them out on paper to better see the components. This was after shaking bag well to mix it and just pulling out 5Gm scoops at random. Let's just take the little white balls for example as these are the easiest to see.....I have no idea what these balls contain but I do know that the amount of them one gets varies wildly from scoop to scoop e.g.the ten scoops I pulled contained from three of the little white balls to twenty of them!

I feed roughly a gallon every three days using 4-5 Gms of MC2. Let's say that the little white balls contain nitrogen[I have no idea what they contain.] If we take the low and high of the samples I pulled, it means that one feeding has only 3 balls of nitrogen while three days later, I might be feeding over six times as much!

I still think MC2 is an excellent product.....I just wonder about nute amount variation, especially for those who are using small amounts per feeding.

It was the same question I had with MC1, though in that formulation the little white balls were small enough that I didn't see it as terribly crucial. With MC2, on the other hand, if there was a problem it has been exacerbated considerably by the larger particle size of the one component.

I've dumped my 50g/500ml mix back onto the stirplate. Will let it run a few more hours. If it needs to be heated to get more dissolved, then the solution will be oversaturated when it cools, and theres a good chance this stuff will either crystallize out of solution, or just precipitate. If I cant get a good 0.1:1 ratio, then i'll try 0.1:1.5. Makes the math a little weirder when dosing the nutrient solution, but it does still solve the problem.

Overall, though, I don't see how they can publish a guaranteed analysis if the mixture isn't homogeneous to begin with. Very weird.

 

[hesgone13]

It was the same question I had with MC1, though in that formulation the little white balls were small enough that I didn't see it as terribly crucial. With MC2, on the other hand, if there was a problem it has been exacerbated considerably by the larger particle size of the one component.

I've dumped my 50g/500ml mix back onto the stirplate. Will let it run a few more hours. If it needs to be heated to get more dissolved, then the solution will be oversaturated when it cools, and theres a good chance this stuff will either crystallize out of solution, or just precipitate. If I cant get a good 0.1:1 ratio, then i'll try 0.1:1.5. Makes the math a little weirder when dosing the nutrient solution, but it does still solve the problem.

Overall, though, I don't see how they can publish a guaranteed analysis if the mixture isn't homogeneous to begin with. Very weird.

The thing about MC1 is that I never saw the lack of uniformity in 5Gm scoops like I did with MC2. I think I may switch back to MC1 to finish out my current grow.....I don't know if this factor causes any probs.....none seem to be reported.........I have noticed a slower response to feeding with the MC2...but as with everything concerning canna grows....too many damn variables to know for sure!